Author Topic: Rpm vs Mph - Automatic transmission  (Read 11356 times)

gvillayandre

  • Guest
Rpm vs Mph - Automatic transmission
« on: April 07, 2013, 07:46:54 »
Hi All,

I would like to compare my car performance related to Rpm and Mph.

Mine in fourth gear at 4.000 Rpm gets 55 Mph in a flat ride. No up or down hill drive.

Have anybody make this comparison?
Is there any table that compiles this info at standard?

Thank you!!

w113dude

  • Guest
Re: Rpm vs Mph - Automatic transmission
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2013, 12:59:16 »
It should be closer to 3000 RPM at 55 MPH

georgem

  • Full Member
  • Gold
  • *****
  • Australia, Queensland, Birkdale
  • Posts: 510
Re: Rpm vs Mph - Automatic transmission
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2013, 19:24:53 »
Our 230 manual does 3000rpm for 60mph, 3500 for 70mph if that's any help. The speed I`ll vouch for as it was from a GPS, the revs were off the tach so no guarantee there

cheers
George McDonald
Brisbane
230 Sl
1973 VW Kombi Single Cab Ute
2022 Volvo XC 40 Pure (100% electric)

gvillayandre

  • Guest
Re: Rpm vs Mph - Automatic transmission
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2013, 20:11:32 »
Appreciated!!

I will record speed from 3.000 to 5.000 each 500 rpm and post.


Cees Klumper

  • Full Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • USA, CA, Fallbrook
  • Posts: 5719
    • http://SL113.org
Re: Rpm vs Mph - Automatic transmission
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2013, 21:18:12 »
You know it all depends on your differential gear ratio, which is stamped into a flat surface on the side of it. Lots of us have replaced original differentials with high ratios (4.08) with lower ones to reduce the RPMs at highway speeds. US automatics were typically sold with the 4.08 and I replaced mine with. 3.69 years ago. Reduces RPMs by about 10%.
Cees Klumper
1969 Mercedes 280 SL automatic
1968 Ford Mustang 302 V8
1961 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Sprint Coupe 1600
1962 FIAT 1500S OSCA convertible
1972 Lancia Fulvia Coupe 1.3
1983 Porsche 944 2.5
1990 Ford Bronco II

gvillayandre

  • Guest
Re: Rpm vs Mph - Automatic transmission
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2013, 21:50:00 »
Thank you Cees.

I will check what is my car differential ratio.

Is this change expensive?

bogeyman

  • Full Member
  • Silver
  • ****
  • USA, NE, Omaha
  • Posts: 341
Re: Rpm vs Mph - Automatic transmission
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2013, 21:54:30 »
In top gear, you should be about 2700-2800 at 55mph. If you are actually turning 4,000, my guess is that you are actually in 3rd gear?
No final drive ratio in the 113s will give you 4,000 @ 55mph in top gear.
Rick Bogart
1970 280SL Black(040)/Parchment
1969 280SL Silver(180)/Green
1993 500E
1972 350SL
1995 E320 Cabrio

Cees Klumper

  • Full Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • USA, CA, Fallbrook
  • Posts: 5719
    • http://SL113.org
Re: Rpm vs Mph - Automatic transmission
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2013, 16:41:00 »
I changed my differential for, as I recall, around €500 including labor which was an ok deal because it took the mechanic most of a day. He kept the old differential.
Cees Klumper
1969 Mercedes 280 SL automatic
1968 Ford Mustang 302 V8
1961 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Sprint Coupe 1600
1962 FIAT 1500S OSCA convertible
1972 Lancia Fulvia Coupe 1.3
1983 Porsche 944 2.5
1990 Ford Bronco II

66andBlue

  • Full Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • USA, CA, Solana Beach
  • Posts: 4735
Re: Rpm vs Mph - Automatic transmission
« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2013, 02:48:28 »
I will record speed from 3.000 to 5.000 each 500 rpm and post.
You can compare your data with the ones in this graph:

« Last Edit: April 09, 2013, 02:53:07 by 66andBlue »
Alfred
1964 230SL manual 4-speed 568H signal red
1966 230SL automatic 334G light blue (sold)
1968 280SL automatic (now 904G midnight blue)

Peter van Es

  • Honorary Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • Netherlands, North Holland, Nederhorst Den Berg
  • Posts: 4074
Re: Rpm vs Mph - Automatic transmission
« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2013, 08:08:52 »
Good stuff for Tech Manual...
1970 280SL. System Admin of the site. Please do not mail or PM me questions on Pagoda's... I'm not likely to know the answer.  Please post on the forum instead!

jameshoward

  • Associate Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • United States, New Jersey (formerly of London)
  • Posts: 1570
Re: Rpm vs Mph - Automatic transmission
« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2013, 12:09:57 »
What a brilliant graph, Alfred. Thanks.

Can't wait to finish my car now.  Assuming we both don't disappear in a ball of fire and engine parts the potential looks great.

James
James Howard
1966 LHD 230SL

kampala

  • Full Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • USA, CA, Beach Cities
  • Posts: 1247
Re: Rpm vs Mph - Automatic transmission
« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2013, 13:17:24 »
Alfred,

You guys never cease to amaze ... much appreciated ... this is very nice.


250sl - later - manual
280sl - 1971 - Auto - LSD

71Beige280SL

  • Associate Member
  • Silver
  • ****
  • USA, OH, Madeira
  • Posts: 365
  • 1971 280 SL
Re: Rpm vs Mph - Automatic transmission
« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2013, 13:42:50 »
Very helpful. Was there a standard Gear Ratio for 71 280SLs? Based on the chart, I believe mine would be either 3.69 or 3.75.
- 1971 280SL Beige/Cognac Leather
- 2024 Mercedes GLE 350
- 2024 AMG C43 Sedan

gvillayandre

  • Guest
Re: Rpm vs Mph - Automatic transmission
« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2013, 16:17:11 »
Perfect!!!

Rolf-Dieter ✝︎

  • Associate Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • Canada, ON, London
  • Posts: 3683
    • Best Pagoda Site second to none!
Re: Rpm vs Mph - Automatic transmission
« Reply #14 on: July 10, 2013, 19:27:32 »
This has to be the best car forum on the Internet ... Pad yourself's on the back fellow Members ... Well done ... I'm just blown away from the wealth of information on this site.

My 280 SL (1969) at 60 MPH is around 3,000 RMP at 70 MPH shows around 3,500 RPM (numbers are approx. ~ I will record more accurate numbers), I will keep an eye on it and make a comparison to the Graph ... Thanks Alfred 

EDIT ---> Correction found out that my speedometer is out by about 8 KMPH (when compared to my GPS readout) so 60 MPH on my car speedometer is actually 88 KMPH on my TomTom GPS. and at that point I am at or near 3000 RPM.
« Last Edit: August 09, 2013, 20:04:04 by Rolf-Dieter »
DD 2011 SL 63 AMG and my 69 Pagoda 280 SL

Eminent

  • Guest
Re: Rpm vs Mph - Automatic transmission
« Reply #15 on: August 09, 2013, 17:51:50 »
Alfred, i hope you don't mind.
I took your graph and convert it to Km/h.
Perhaps handy for the members with a Km tacho, like me.
I have a 3.69 spare diff wating for a swap with the 4.08 thats stil under my 280SE(L)
Rini.