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Acquired 1965 230SL Last Year
« on: August 23, 2014, 04:53:59 »
So I bit the bullet and bought on impulse this from-a-mile great looking red 230SL.
Little did I know that the amount of bondo previously applied to the car could be measured in buckets.
Running, driving example. My kids love the smell, the noise it makes and cornering...

Year later, it has spanking brand new floors and rockers (Dan's Benz Barn helped a great deal). Rolling resto continues this year with further body work and hopefully a great paint job in spring '15.
Since I live in Toronto, I would welcome any local owners'get-together...


Few pictures from last year when I got the car.

« Last Edit: November 29, 2014, 23:20:20 by cabrioletturbo »
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Re: Acquired 1965 230SL Last Year
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2014, 13:21:02 »
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Welcome to the forum.
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Good luck and enjoy the new addiction :)
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Re: Acquired 1965 230SL Last Year
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2014, 05:26:37 »
Thanks Stan.

The body showed some rust issues (rotten patches), but the extent of rot was not known. The car exhibited body flexing when going over pot holes. I though the shocks were bad...
As you will see below, there was some significant rust on the rockers and floors. Not for the faint of heart.

A few pics from the beginning of resto. I am sure many members could relate to these... The car was "repaired" and painted 27 years ago. While paint held nicely, the body suffered from moisture.
Over the course of 27 years, it was driven only 10,000 km.

R&R started from passenger side. These are the floors with bondo+rust. At this time it was too early to know the extent of previous "repair".
« Last Edit: September 05, 2014, 04:16:58 by cabrioletturbo »
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Re: Acquired 1965 230SL Last Year
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2014, 06:45:14 »
Once bondo was removed, things started looking pretty bad... I was not sure whether I should cry and abandon the project (part the damn thing) or continue. I guess an optimist in me prevailed. Fenders had to be cut to remove foot well.
The last picture shows me standing in the passenger footwell. What footwell? There is none of it left.
« Last Edit: September 05, 2014, 04:18:44 by cabrioletturbo »
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Re: Acquired 1965 230SL Last Year
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2014, 06:57:35 »
A few dollars in sheet metal later. Looks promising...
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Re: Acquired 1965 230SL Last Year
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2014, 10:45:37 »
That's quite some work you're into. I'm not a body/chassis specialist, but shouldn't you have welded some rods to keep the body straight while you are cutting so much out of it? Make sure your doors close well once you're finished!

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Re: Acquired 1965 230SL Last Year
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2014, 21:04:03 »
Thanks for your comment. Measurements were taken before to ensure fit after the work is done. Few more shots.
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Re: Acquired 1965 230SL Last Year
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2014, 22:11:23 »
Igor, looks to me as if you know what your doing!  You seem to be making very good progress as well.  Keep it up and keep the photos coming.  Love it.  This work seemed to take me forever.  Have you done much panel work like this before?
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Re: Acquired 1965 230SL Last Year
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2014, 02:21:15 »
Thanks Andy, but I need to clarify: I actually have a good body man who is doing all the metal work. There is some minor fabrication involved, as in the picture showing the passenger side bracket. Robert did great work there.
Most of the sheet metal I have purchased through a local, well known supplier (Thanks, Dan!), so that make the job easier. My turn to roll up the sleeves would be - when the body is done.
All mechanical, upholstery, the rest of the kinks will be mine to resolve.

The way it is looking, I will most likely be buying another pagoda - these are phenomenal cars to own and drive! I would leverage the knowledge gained with this car to: a) find a better vehicle to begin with, and b) resolve majority of the issues myself, and c) get my wife to drive it! It seems it is quickly becoming the family thing.

On the below pictures it is shown were I decided to stop for the season in the wheel well area. Further front body work requires front clip off the body (I was hoping we do not go there, but...), so that is coming this fall/winter.
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Re: Acquired 1965 230SL Last Year
« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2014, 02:25:40 »
Off to the driver's side now.

Both A pillars were so rusted out that they were barely holding onto the rockers. Passenger side was by far worse, but driver's was following closely.
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Re: Acquired 1965 230SL Last Year
« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2014, 04:03:39 »
Removed old stuff, bare again.
If you wondered what the last pic is about, it is the amount of rust, old metal and who-knows-what-else.
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Re: Acquired 1965 230SL Last Year
« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2014, 04:09:42 »
More pics on the extent of removed metal. I am positive most of you are glad you were not in my shoes...
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Re: Acquired 1965 230SL Last Year
« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2014, 04:29:51 »
New metal in.
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Re: Acquired 1965 230SL Last Year
« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2014, 04:34:59 »
Both rear wheel wells were cleaned and patched where required.
Driver's floor meets new rocker.
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Re: Acquired 1965 230SL Last Year
« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2014, 04:46:38 »
...and the red rocket got out of the shop in June!

Fender pieces were welded back together and tacked to the body (for ease of future removal), fender bottoms and quarter bottoms were replaced, outside body was primed and inside painted beige.
Although summer here was not that great, I enjoyed driving it! I must mention that the car now feels very sturdy, no wobbly feeling from 10 months ago. If I only knew I had to spend... ...never mind. I enjoyed the process.

The body will undergo another season of heavy metal work (front clip resto and some rear end work). I am planning on stripping it to bare metal myself, removing the engine/tranny, upholstery, etc., and then handing it over to the shop.
I expect the body work and paint should be done by spring/summer 2015. I am staying red. Is there any other color?  ;D
« Last Edit: September 05, 2014, 05:04:33 by cabrioletturbo »
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Re: Acquired 1965 230SL Last Year
« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2014, 01:22:57 »
Power train out, paint stripping in progress.
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Re: Acquired 1965 230SL Last Year
« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2014, 01:27:27 »
The amount of body filler was staggering. I regret I did not weigh the total amount of filler removed from the body panels.
There were about seven layers of different material: Factory primer, 1st paint, primer 1, primer 2, 2nd paint, primer, 3rd paint.

Please note butcher's job around the tail light area.
No wonder the tail light could not sit flush with the body panel. Will rectify.
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Re: Acquired 1965 230SL Last Year
« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2014, 01:41:15 »
Stripped enough. Waiting for the body shop.
BTW, quarter panel moldings, anyone? I am looking for a pair.
It would be nice if I had them while quarter panels are done, so that the mounting holes could be aligned with those on the doors.
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Re: Acquired 1965 230SL Last Year
« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2014, 14:44:42 »
Amazing amount of work!  You're making impressive progress.  Keep posting updates. 
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Re: Acquired 1965 230SL Last Year
« Reply #19 on: December 02, 2014, 22:59:12 »
Dear Igor,

Absolutely stunning work !
OMG, there was a lot of rust, boy ...!

First when I saw the floorpan rust pictures (BTW quite common for our cars) that you were better doing to strip the whole car.
But on the other side I really like the idea that you just did the rails, floorpans and lower fender sections in order to have your car running the summer again.
What a great idea!

Keep on the excellent work and pls. keep us updated !

Very impressive,

Achim
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Re: Acquired 1965 230SL Last Year
« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2014, 22:03:57 »
Holy moely, quite the undertaking, I just aquired a 67 230SL and plan on doing the same thing. My driver side is bad front and rear but I hope it's not as bad as what you went thru, awesome work man.

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Re: Acquired 1965 230SL Last Year
« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2015, 00:47:43 »
On the way to the shop
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Re: Acquired 1965 230SL Last Year
« Reply #22 on: April 04, 2015, 02:10:46 »
Wow!
That's an incredible job. Thank you for sharing your story.
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Re: Acquired 1965 230SL Last Year
« Reply #23 on: April 04, 2015, 07:09:57 »
Igor
it looks like you were doing not the car renovation but a car resurrection. Very much in the mood of Easter :)

Your statement that this is an experience that would benefit towards the next Pagoda sounds more and more substantial every day
Good luck,
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Re: Acquired 1965 230SL Last Year
« Reply #24 on: April 07, 2015, 15:20:29 »
Thanks, Stan.

Your comment got me thinking - as the car is not registered yet, I may go for a customized plate that reads: "Phoenix" in case it has not been reserved already.
For some time I was looking for a catchy plate name, I think I got it now  ;)




Igor
it looks like you were doing not the car renovation but a car resurrection. Very much in the mood of Easter :)

Your statement that this is an experience that would benefit towards the next Pagoda sounds more and more substantial every day
Good luck,
Igor
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