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batman

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Internal front grille
« on: February 24, 2015, 11:06:09 »
I have removed the black grille (behind the front chrome star grille) to repair a loose louvre and repaint it.

Lightly sanding back the existing flaking black paint has surprising revealed a cream undercoat.

I have 2 questions:

1. The grille is aluminium. Should I solder the two loose louvres or use some sort of metal glue?

2. Can someone please confirm the colour to repaint - is it satin black ?

many thanks

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Re: Internal front grille
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2015, 11:38:03 »
Hi Mark,

I would have someone Aluminium weld the loose fins. ( there are those who can do it. Jim at Propanels knows a good Aluminium welder who will eventually carry out repairs on my hood)

They look Satin Black to me but it may well be the same very dark grey used in the trunk, etc. ( not sure anyone could tell the difference on the grille).

Hopefully someone can confirm.

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Rob
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Re: Internal front grille
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2015, 11:45:05 »
Just redid mine last year.  Same Dunklegrau that is in the trunk.  The paint code is in this forum for Dunklegrau.

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Re: Internal front grille
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2015, 21:17:10 »
Mark,

If you decide to go with the dark grey using the formula from this site, you can get a rattle can made up by most good body shops for about $30 otherwise the alternative is to use Rust Guard Satin Black from Bunnings that also gives a good finish and given where they are it will be very difficult to tell the difference and about half the price.

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Re: Internal front grille
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2015, 16:44:53 »
Mark,
I got mine cleaned and powder coated by a guy in Moorabbin who did a fantastic job.
I can look up his details on request.

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Re: Internal front grille
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2015, 02:20:31 »
I had a set powder-coated in satin black mainly as I didn't want to deal with the chipped and flaked paint from all the road debris that they seem to attract. I don't feel that the dunkel grau is as critical here but that's just me.
« Last Edit: February 26, 2015, 02:28:22 by KevinC »

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Re: Internal front grille
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2015, 02:52:11 »
I have a new set still in the package and I would say it is satin black.

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Re: Internal front grille
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2015, 18:54:02 »
Jack,
That is very interesting.
New Old Stock from Mercedes?
Can you hold up something known to be black next to it and tell us if you still feel it is satin black?
As alot of you know I am a big fan of dunkelegrau.  ;D
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Re: Internal front grille
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2015, 00:50:02 »
I got my grilles powder coated for durability.
I asked for satin black (completely unaware of the dunkelgrau business) and was slightly disappointed to see that the powder coating finish gave the grille a very slightly grey-ish appearance.
So on the basis of this discussion i'm happy to report that powder coated satin black is effectively dunkelgrau anyway !

Attached - some pics of my factory original boot (trunk) space with a random black plastic extrusion (a Suzuki tail light to be precise).
The untrained eye would never pic the difference.
But thanks to whoever pointed this issue out, as I will be obsessively checking this on every pagoda I see from now on  :)

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Re: Internal front grille
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2015, 00:09:23 »
I went to a local retail auto shop this morning. They also supply car paint. They inserted Mercedes Benz "Tiefdunkelgrau 164" in their computer and the colour mixing combinations appeared. The caption said..."for boot (trunk) and other surfaces"....

I bought 2 rattle cans.

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Re: Internal front grille
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2015, 00:26:24 »
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Just redid mine last year.  Same Dunklegrau that is in the trunk.  The paint code is in this forum for Dunklegrau.

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I went to a local retail auto shop this morning. They also supply car paint. They inserted Mercedes Benz "Tiefdunkelgrau 164" in their computer and the colour mixing combinations appeared. The caption said..."for boot (trunk) and other surfaces"....

Yes, Gentlemen,
That's correct.

The grille behinds were always BLACK, never dark grey.  ::)

This is different with the trunk, yes, and we had that discussion quite often in the past. :o
There was a change over from black to 'tiefdunkelgrau' DB164 (today: DB7164) for the trunk/softtop compartment sometime in 1969 or so.
But the grilles behind the front grille were always black.

Achim

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Re: Internal front grille
« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2015, 01:09:38 »
Jack,
That is very interesting.
New Old Stock from Mercedes?
Can you hold up something known to be black next to it and tell us if you still feel it is satin black?
As alot of you know I am a big fan of dunkelegrau.  ;D

Both sides have never been used and are satin black.
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Re: Internal front grille
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2015, 18:33:45 »
Thank you Achim and Jack for the clarification.
I won't mention the dunkelegrau color in reference to this part any longer.
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