Author Topic: Restoration - Update (Read 61337 times)

bpossel · « **on:** October 29, 2007, 07:16:11 »

July 26, 2008

Carpet & seats installed.

http://picasaweb.google.com/mercedes280sl

Please check back for add'l photos as the project continues...

Kemal · « **Reply #1 on:** October 29, 2007, 14:17:24 »

Thank you Bob, for sharing .

Kemal
280 SL Manual 69

ja17 · « **Reply #2 on:** October 29, 2007, 19:41:57 »

Hello Bob,

Make sure you have plenty of Zip Lock bags, and labels. Go out and buy about a hundred pipe cleaners, you'll find plenty of uses for these, wiring parts together and hardware to parts etc.
Take plenty of digital photos,
Don't rely on memory when your putting the car back together in a year.

Joe Alexander
Blacklick, Ohio

bpossel · « **Reply #3 on:** October 30, 2007, 06:54:06 »

Hi Joe,

Thanks! Yes, I purchased a "ton" of plastic baggies. The ones that you can write on...

This project is somewhat overwhelming, but if I take each section of the car as a "mini" project, and keep everything very organized, it is doable.

Will keep all updated as I progress....

Thanks again.
Bob

bpossel (Memphis, TN.)
'71 280SL / '97 E320

Shvegel · « **Reply #4 on:** October 31, 2007, 06:23:17 »

One trick I picked up in a high end shop was to use a wire or tie wraps and "leash" the key to he steering column.

bpossel · « **Reply #5 on:** October 31, 2007, 07:14:51 »

10/31/07 - Updated with add'l pics on Google Album.
B.

bpossel (Memphis, TN.)
'71 280SL / '97 E320

doitwright · « **Reply #6 on:** October 31, 2007, 22:44:15 »

Bob,

Did you put in the Dynamat? If so do it make a noticable difference for heat and sound? Will you be adding more after the repaint?

Frank Koronkiewicz
Willowbrook, Illinois

1970 280SL Light Ivory

bpossel · « **Reply #7 on:** November 01, 2007, 07:01:49 »

Hi Frank,

This summer when I recarpeted, I scraped out all of the mat'l on the floor. I wanted to ensure there wasnt any rust underneath.

I then installed the new dynamat material. I didnt re-install the other padding material (multi-colored, grey wool type material) that was installed in-between the old floor mat'l and my old carpet. In summary, I cant really say that it lowered the noise and/or the heat. I am sure that it helps...
Bob

bpossel (Memphis, TN.)
'71 280SL / '97 E320

RBYCC · « **Reply #8 on:** November 01, 2007, 10:14:02 »

quote:
Originally posted by bpossel

Hi Frank,

This summer when I recarpeted, I scraped out all of the mat'l on the floor. I wanted to ensure there wasnt any rust underneath.

I then installed the new dynamat material. I didnt re-install the other padding material (multi-colored, grey wool type material) that was installed in-between the old floor mat'l and my old carpet. In summary, I cant really say that it lowered the noise and/or the heat. I am sure that it helps...
Bob

bpossel (Memphis, TN.)
'71 280SL / '97 E320

Bob

If you are trying to attain sound deadening / attenuation you should consider the "Dynapad" over the "Dynamat"

The "Dynapad' is a multi layer foam material without the tar like adhesive backing.
It's weight holds it in place.

I installed it in my C6 Corvette ( which I traded for my 280SL ) in the cargo area to quiet an aftermarket exhaust.
It does work and in the C6 instance was covered with the trunk mat.

Thinking of doing the same thing in the 280SL, installing under the rubber mat and glueing to the inner side of the cardboard side partitions.

ED A.
1971 280SL
1988 300CE TWIN TURBO
1990 C43 AMG
2003 G55 AMG

bpossel · « **Reply #9 on:** November 01, 2007, 12:36:18 »

Hi Ed,

I like that material! No sticky gooo.

Where did you buy it?

Thanks,
Bob

quote:
Originally posted by RBYCC

quote:
Originally posted by bpossel

Hi Frank,

This summer when I recarpeted, I scraped out all of the mat'l on the floor. I wanted to ensure there wasnt any rust underneath.

I then installed the new dynamat material. I didnt re-install the other padding material (multi-colored, grey wool type material) that was installed in-between the old floor mat'l and my old carpet. In summary, I cant really say that it lowered the noise and/or the heat. I am sure that it helps...
Bob

bpossel (Memphis, TN.)
'71 280SL / '97 E320

Bob

If you are trying to attain sound deadening / attenuation you should consider the "Dynapad" over the "Dynamat"

The "Dynapad' is a multi layer foam material without the tar like adhesive backing.
It's weight holds it in place.

I installed it in my C6 Corvette ( which I traded for my 280SL ) in the cargo area to quiet an aftermarket exhaust.
It does work and in the C6 instance was covered with the trunk mat.

Thinking of doing the same thing in the 280SL, installing under the rubber mat and glueing to the inner side of the cardboard side partitions.

ED A.
1971 280SL
1988 300CE TWIN TURBO
1990 C43 AMG
2003 G55 AMG

bpossel (Memphis, TN.)
'71 280SL / '97 E320

RBYCC · « **Reply #10 on:** November 01, 2007, 18:12:22 »

quote:
Originally posted by bpossel

Hi Ed,

I like that material! No sticky gooo.

Where did you buy it?

Thanks,
Bob

Hi Bob

Usually sold at car audio shops.
Crutchfield has it in their catalogue, but if I recall I paid around $100.00 for the sheet.
No gooey stuff, you can cut it to the shape of the mat and lay it over the carpet with the mat on top.
Works for sound, decent for heat !

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-r48iv2PVHvG/App/Product/Item/Main.aspx?search=Dynamat+DynaPad&i=15421100

ED A.
1971 280SL
1988 300CE TWIN TURBO
1990 C43 AMG
2003 G55 AMG

mrfatboy · « **Reply #11 on:** November 01, 2007, 22:54:00 »

bob,

I looking to get my car painted as well. I wanted to strip it down myself and let the painters do their job just like you. Can you tell us how much the painting is going to cost you? What type of paint job(paint?)did you go with.

thanks

1969 280sl
Signal Red

bpossel · « **Reply #12 on:** November 02, 2007, 04:22:15 »

My painter would only do an initial estimate, then a final quote once it is stripped down to the bare metal. The inital estimate is 7500.
The painter likes to use 3M paint (multiple base coats, then multiple clear coats with wet sanding in-between). I am still unsure if 3M is the way to go or the Glasurit paint?
Bob

quote:
Originally posted by mrfatboy

bob,

I looking to get my car painted as well. I wanted to strip it down myself and let the painters do their job just like you. Can you tell us how much the painting is going to cost you? What type of paint job(paint?)did you go with.

thanks

1969 280sl
Signal Red

bpossel (Memphis, TN.)
'71 280SL / '97 E320

mdsalemi · « **Reply #13 on:** November 02, 2007, 07:02:59 »

quote:
Originally posted by bpossel

My painter would only do an initial estimate, then a final quote once it is stripped down to the bare metal. The inital estimate is 7500.
The painter likes to use 3M paint (multiple base coats, then multiple clear coats with wet sanding in-between). I am still unsure if 3M is the way to go or the Glasurit paint?
Bob

Bob, it's all in the prep--pre-spray, and post. You've seen my paint, it's Glasurit. But I'm sure the same level of preparation and finishing (that's all the time and money) with 3M will yield similar results. If your painter is familiar with, and comfortable with 3M, don't ask him to change brands on you.

Michael Salemi
1969 280SL
Signal Red 568G w/Black Leather (Restored)
President, International Stars Section
Mercedes-Benz Club of America

RBYCC · « **Reply #14 on:** November 02, 2007, 08:27:53 »

quote:
Originally posted by bpossel

My painter would only do an initial estimate, then a final quote once it is stripped down to the bare metal. The inital estimate is 7500.
The painter likes to use 3M paint (multiple base coats, then multiple clear coats with wet sanding in-between). I am still unsure if 3M is the way to go or the Glasurit paint?
Bob

Bob

$7500.00 + appears to be a starting point for a Glasurit paint job done by a certified Mercedes paint and collision center.

$7500.00 + is what I was quoted to do my 300CE.
This included removing all parts from the car, prepping and using the new Glasurit system.

The "+" part of the quote would be for any metal repair, and new parts such as trim, gaskets, rubber, and emblems. !

Seems in line.

3M system as he proposes should give an excellent result...remember Merc did not use a modern system like Glasurit on the W113's

ED A.
1971 280SL
1988 300CE TWIN TURBO
1990 C43 AMG
2003 G55 AMG

bpossel · « **Reply #15 on:** November 02, 2007, 21:53:47 »

Thanks Mike & Ed!

More pics added....

http://picasaweb.google.com/mercedes280sl/Resto

Bob

bpossel (Memphis, TN.)
'71 280SL / '97 E320

J. Huber · « **Reply #16 on:** November 02, 2007, 22:10:10 »

Very nice pics, Bob. Keep them coming. I am vicariously repainting my car with your wallet! I did a "not quite as thorough" strip when I had my car painted in 1998. It was a much lower end repaint but I did remove most of the chrome myself...Was actually kind of fun. If I ever do it the right way -- your story will be inspirational. I'd jump at the $7500 part but guarantee mine would at least triple that with what they'd uncover.

Oh and are you planning to leave off the extra door-side molding? I would...

James
63 230SL

bpossel · « **Reply #17 on:** November 03, 2007, 05:04:35 »

Hi James,

Thank you! So far it has been fun! I need to keep telling myself that this is a hobby and take my time... Besides, when this is all finished, I'll be wondering what I can do next... maybe just drive the car and have some other type of fun?

The non std side moldings were the 1st thing I removed. They have bothered me since I purchased the car. Now they are gone and soon all traces of that ugly strip will be completely faded away...

I may change the resto pics and try to resort in "most recent" first....

Regards,
Bob

quote:
Originally posted by J. Huber

Very nice pics, Bob. Keep them coming. I am vicariously repainting my car with your wallet! I did a "not quite as thorough" strip when I had my car painted in 1998. It was a much lower end repaint but I did remove most of the chrome myself...Was actually kind of fun. If I ever do it the right way -- your story will be inspirational. I'd jump at the $7500 part but guarantee mine would at least triple that with what they'd uncover.

Oh and are you planning to leave off the extra door-side molding? I would...

James
63 230SL

bpossel (Memphis, TN.)
'71 280SL / '97 E320

Douglas · « **Reply #18 on:** November 03, 2007, 15:41:02 »

quote:
Originally posted by J. Huber

Oh and are you planning to leave off the extra door-side molding? I would...

James
63 230SL

It pains me to see it was actually screwed into the sheet metal by the PO [:0]

Douglas Kim
New York
USA

bpossel · « **Reply #19 on:** November 03, 2007, 21:49:15 »

More pics... doors striped today...

http://picasaweb.google.com/mercedes280sl/Resto

bpossel (Memphis, TN.)
'71 280SL / '97 E320

Kemal · « **Reply #20 on:** November 04, 2007, 12:02:21 »

('[:0]') Wow, thats a job & a half you're doing, in your spare time!
I would love to be able to do all that one day ! ('

')

Kemal
280 SL Manual 69

quote:
Originally posted by bpossel

More pics... doors striped today...

http://picasaweb.google.com/mercedes280sl/Resto

bpossel (Memphis, TN.)
'71 280SL / '97 E320

jeffc280sl · « **Reply #21 on:** November 08, 2007, 16:35:17 »

Hey Bob,

The project looks like its coming along. Great work! I don't know about you but I find taking pics helps to slow me down just enough to mark, label and bag things properly. Without that I would be like a 6 year old on Christmas and have stuff all over the place.

Jeff C.
1970 280SL 4-speed

upside2k · « **Reply #22 on:** November 11, 2007, 14:28:03 »

These are wonderful pics. I am getting ready for a repaint, but did not have anything as extensive in mind.

This is inspiring me to go in this direction. Please keep the pics coming!!

John

GTMSJ · « **Reply #23 on:** November 11, 2007, 15:57:24 »

Quite an ambitious project! I'm in the process of interviewing body shops to repaint my pagoda. After talking with a few of them I have a pretty good understanding of what it entails to do what you are doing -- my hat is definitely off to you -- please keep us updated!

Gary

1970 280 sl silver/red
1992 NSX
1998 GS400

pauldridge · « **Reply #24 on:** November 11, 2007, 19:51:40 »

Bob... these pics are very instructional... invaluable to the forum. I'll be removing my engine soon... Just wondering, seems like I've read several recommendations to just remove the engine/trans from below.. I haven't really explored it yet, but wondering why you chose the out-the-top method? I'm sure you have good reason, and can save me from taking the wrong step?

Thanks
Phil

230SL, 59 Jag MK IX, 65 Stingray Roadster, 89 Carrera Cabriolet

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