Pagoda SL Group

W113 Pagoda SL Group => Research & Development => Topic started by: JamesL on August 09, 2009, 19:22:18

Title: Softtop mod?
Post by: JamesL on August 09, 2009, 19:22:18
I was whizzing home today on a hot 270 mile run. Sun blazing and highway driving at 80mph most of the time so the roof was up for some of the run (shade and relative quiet) and I got to thinking.....

On some cars of our era - namely MGs and Triumphs - the rear window is a zip in affair. So the window can be opened and rolled down. Therefore, the cabin is dry, ventilated and shaded.

Anyone ever come across this on a 113 - or have any thoughts as to the implications of such a mod?

Thanks
Title: Re: Softtop mod?
Post by: hauser on August 09, 2009, 21:09:23
Next time try securing the front of the soft top and use a bungee cord or similar to hold the window portion folded up against the upper frame work.  BMW had a version of this with the 2002 Bauer edition.  Also similar would be the Mercedes Landaulet.
Title: Re: Softtop mod?
Post by: tuultyme on August 09, 2009, 21:40:19
I thought of this the other day when I looked at a convertible Mazda Miata; the rear window zipped down.  maybe we could get one of the top manufactures to add this option.
Title: Re: Softtop mod?
Post by: thelews on August 09, 2009, 22:31:58
It's been done on a friend of mine's 190 SL in California.
Title: Re: Softtop mod?
Post by: mdsalemi on August 10, 2009, 17:52:49
Next time try securing the front of the soft top and use a bungee cord or similar to hold the window portion folded up against the upper frame work.  BMW had a version of this with the 2002 Bauer edition.  Also similar would be the Mercedes Landaulet.

Pagoda Landaulet:  For those of you who might remember OR attended Dan Caron's "Meeting of the Clans" a couple of years back, one of the attendees was noted songwriter (and Canadian) Ian Thomas http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Thomas_(singer-songwriter), brother of Dave Thomas (noted comedian http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Thomas_(actor) )

Ian had a very peculiarly-colored Pagoda; electric Lime Green Metallic, as I recall, and had the front of the soft top latched at the top of the windscreen, and some bungee contraption with the rear folded up.  Apparently he had been doing this for some time, finding it adds quite a bit to the ventilation while cutting down on glare and noise on the highway...

Never did get a photo of it.
Title: Re: Softtop mod?
Post by: Cees Klumper on August 10, 2009, 20:24:45
My '72 Triumph Spitfire also had a 'zipper' rear window - this was a very useful feature. It would certainly enhance the soft-top experience on my Pagoda. Maybe I will ask for it to be added when I replace my current softtop.
Title: Re: Softtop mod?
Post by: norton on August 10, 2009, 21:27:43
Maybe a Bimini top for the Pagoda? ::)
Title: Re: Softtop mod?
Post by: mdsalemi on August 10, 2009, 22:50:57
Maybe a Bimini top for the Pagoda? ::)

..perhaps you ought to explain that nautical term since there are probably a lot of landlubbers here...
Title: Re: Softtop mod?
Post by: J. Huber on August 11, 2009, 01:46:47
Well, this is an example of a Bimini top. Folds down or can be up to block the sun...

Title: Re: Softtop mod?
Post by: 66andBlue on August 11, 2009, 02:09:43
I believe that Porsche had the best solution for this - anyone remember the "soft window" Targa?
It was made for only two or three years.
Title: Re: Softtop mod?
Post by: paulr on August 11, 2009, 08:41:16
The spring on the rear part of my soft top seems strong enough for me to drive with the rear clipped up. I do it nearly all the time that the roof is up, partly because of the recently cured heater on situation. I've often wondered if others did the same.
Title: Re: Softtop mod?
Post by: The Hawaiian on August 11, 2009, 18:34:38
I agree that a zippered rear window would be great.  However, the bulk of the zipper and extra fabric that covers the zippered section may make the top too bulky to fit into the top enclosure when lowered. 

I do drive with the back section open, but I've been careful to use a bungee card to ensure that it stays up. 
Two cautions:  1.  if you do not use the bungee cord, be prepared that a hard bump could cause the back section to slam down, potentially screwing up the insert lockdown pin or holder not to mention scaring the crap out of you.  (2) ensure that the top lid is locked back down or it could fly open at speed potentially bending the hinges.
While I have not had any damage, it has been due to blind luck rather than any technical talent on my part, but both incidents have happened to me.
Title: Re: Softtop mod?
Post by: JimVillers on August 11, 2009, 20:15:22
Just my two cents ...... I have a zip out window in my MG and never use it.  If it is nice enough to zip the window, the top is down.  The top is only up if I need the top (and the window).