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W113 Pagoda SL Group => General Discussion => Topic started by: mbzse on June 23, 2015, 15:37:11

Title: Tool quiz
Post by: mbzse on June 23, 2015, 15:37:11
Perhaps some may enjoy a tool quiz. It is a factory workshop item.
What is it (for)?

(perhaps the ones here in our Forum who are a bit "into it" may hold back a little   ;)
/Hans in Sweden
Title: Re: Tool quiz
Post by: hauser on June 23, 2015, 15:49:13
Looks like a puller of sorts.  Definitely a puller ???
Title: Re: Tool quiz
Post by: Cees Klumper on June 23, 2015, 16:32:29
I don't know whether I qualify as one of the 'into it' people Hans, so I will hold my fire for now ;-)
Title: Re: Tool quiz
Post by: JamesL on June 23, 2015, 17:48:00
I have a very similar looking corkscrew. That's a very useful puller
Title: Re: Tool quiz
Post by: Rolf-Dieter ✝︎ on June 23, 2015, 17:59:56
hauser is on the right track alright .... Like Cees I will hold my fire too .... James I too have something similar only it has two arms that move up into the air and I use it to open a bottle of my well aged fine red wine every other night or so :)

Nice thread Hans .... Keep on posting ... I recall my master in Germany when I asked him "Do we have a tool to handle this?" He would look over his glasses and in a firm look would say "No ... Make one!"

I look forward to see some of the special tools that have been made and used on our Pagoda's :)
Title: Re: Tool quiz
Post by: scoot on June 23, 2015, 18:05:33
Hmmm.   Does it have anything to do with an injection pump?
Title: Re: Tool quiz
Post by: Jowe on June 23, 2015, 19:02:23
BBB 15-18/2: puller for crankshaft sprocket for timing. (Never seen or used it, just browsed)
Title: Re: Tool quiz
Post by: tel76 on June 23, 2015, 19:20:26
MB Puller for removing the pins that hold the timing chain rails.
Title: Re: Tool quiz
Post by: mbzse on June 23, 2015, 19:42:30
Quote from: scoot
Hmmm.   Does it have anything to do with an injection pump?
Sorry, no. Different area on vehicle.
/Hans in Sweden
Title: Re: Tool quiz
Post by: mbzse on June 23, 2015, 20:44:23
Quote from: Jowe
BBB 15-18/2: puller for crankshaft sprocket for timing
Nope, smaller job than that
/Hans in Sweden
Title: Re: Tool quiz
Post by: mbzse on June 23, 2015, 20:48:22
Quote from: tel76
MB Puller for removing the pins that hold the timing chain rails
Very good answer, actually... but - No  :)
I do not know if there is a factory tool for those pins on the engine front(?)

We are getting there. When we have a "bingo" answer, I'll show some pictures of the tool in use
/Hans in Sweden
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Title: Re: Tool quiz
Post by: Shvegel on June 23, 2015, 21:16:03
There is a tool for the sliding rail pins.  I have the center bit but have yet to find the 2 other pieces.
Title: Re: Tool quiz
Post by: mbzse on June 25, 2015, 18:25:26
Ok, anyone then!
It is a factory workshop item.
What is it (for)?
/Hans in Sweden
Title: Re: Tool quiz
Post by: hauser on June 25, 2015, 20:25:40
The 4mm thread attaches to something and the the part being pulled fits into the cavity of the cylindrical  piece? 
Title: Re: Tool quiz
Post by: mbzse on June 25, 2015, 20:38:24
Quote from: hauser
The 4mm thread attaches to something and the the part being pulled fits into the cavity of the cylindrical  piece?
Certainly so!
One more comment: It is valid for all Pagoda models, except the very early 230SL
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Title: Re: Tool quiz
Post by: Benzo on June 26, 2015, 13:01:56
Does it pull the plunger out of the warm run device if its stuck?
Title: Re: Tool quiz
Post by: ejboyd5 on June 26, 2015, 13:23:01
Not looking at a Pagoda right now, but in other M-Bs of the era it might be used to remove the rotating central core from a heater control valve.
Title: Re: Tool quiz
Post by: mbzse on June 26, 2015, 13:40:53
Quote from: ejboyd5
.../... it might be used to remove the rotating central core from a heater control valve
Bingo!
That's is just what it is for
Well done, five Stars to yourself, he he  :D
/Hans in Sweden
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Title: Re: Tool quiz
Post by: mbzse on June 26, 2015, 13:42:51
Quote from: Benzo
Does it pull the plunger out of the warm run device if its stuck?
Hey, not precisely what Mercedes designed it for, but that would be a good use for it!
I'll post some pictures showing the tool in action
/Hans in Sweden
Title: Re: Tool quiz solved I
Post by: mbzse on June 26, 2015, 14:23:25
Answer to Quiz
This is the M-B official tool for removing a (stuck) heater valve
I was happy to find the item, as they are kind of rare.
The tool has a M-B number 180 589 023 300      This indicates it was introduced in the fifties, to serve the Ponton type cars.
The tool is useful even today, as it ensures that the outer soft brass metal body (housing) of the heater valve, with its horizontal slit,  is not damaged when a stubbornly corroded valve body is extracted.

Enclosed are pictures of how it is used. Shown here on a "free" passenger compartment heater unit, but it is meant to be used for a unit when in a car.

Note:
The early 230SL's came without the circular opening in the firewall, over the heater valve. This design limited any access to the valve, and was subsequently changed. An opening covered by a plastic cap was introduced
Title: Re: Tool quiz solved II
Post by: mbzse on June 26, 2015, 14:26:03
Some more images of the factory tool in use.

The rubber O-ring on the brass valve body must be exchanged prior to re-assembly, use water faucet type grease
O-ring is M-B part 000 835 5898
/Hans in Sweden
Title: Re: Tool quiz
Post by: Shvegel on June 26, 2015, 22:40:37
Wow.  That's obscure.  Wasn't even listed in my 1970 Mercedes tool catalog.