Pagoda SL Group

W113 Pagoda SL Group => Drive train, fuel, suspension, steering & brakes => Topic started by: erickmarciano on February 20, 2019, 13:47:00

Title: Oil cooler drain plug thread size...
Post by: erickmarciano on February 20, 2019, 13:47:00
Hi guys
Anyone know the Oil cooler drain plug thread size ? Is it M12x1.5 or 1.75
Thanks guys
Title: Re: Oil cooler drain plug thread size...
Post by: Mike K on February 22, 2019, 19:54:07
The bolt plug is 11mm or 7/16in.

I managed to strip the bolt plug when reinstalling after an oil change and purchased these replacement bolts:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00HQRMDXC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00HQRMDXC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)

I had to shorten the bolt length with a Dremel, it was then a perfect fit.

See an older post of mine when I stripped this.
https://www.sl113.org/forums/index.php?topic=20783.msg147849#msg147849 (https://www.sl113.org/forums/index.php?topic=20783.msg147849#msg147849)

Best,
Mike
Title: Re: Oil cooler drain plug thread size...
Post by: 114015 on February 22, 2019, 22:14:01

What ....?   ???   :o :P :-X

Quote
The bolt plug is 11mm or 7/16in.

I managed to strip the bolt plug when reinstalling after an oil change and purchased these replacement bolts:

Are you crazy .... uhem, serious?

This bolt is surely not 7/16 in or even 11 mm.
It's a Mercedes, it's European, it's metric,
and as far as I remember it has a 17 mm hexagon head and thus should be M12 (metric, 12mm thread).

The Mercedes parts number (please look under group 50 radiator and not group 18 oil distribution system)
for this bolt is:

N007604 012105,
that means it is a DIN 7604 bolt (DIN = German industry norm, mostly today some ISO norm) with a 12 mm thread (the "12" in the second half of the parts number)

and will look like this:

https://eshop.wuerth.de/Produktkategorien/DIN-7604-Stahl-verzinkt-Form-A/14013511190102.cyid/1401.cgid/de/DE/EUR/

Unfortunately, without the Mercedes-Benz norm parts number conversion catalog you cannot say from the 105 ending within the second half of the parts number which thread incline it has and how long the plug's thread would be.
But most likely the original MB part (actual cost is about $ 2.00) looks very similar if not identical to the Würth part.

So, why did you use such an non-original inch part ... on a Mercedes?  Mike, please....! :o
With that you clearly messed up the original thread of your radiator. ???
Well, whatever...; if it worked out for you. :-\

Oh... I forgot, Mike ... sorry about that. :-X
Your car is/was a (former) US version car now running in France, correct?
So, maybe one of the preowners back in the US messed that already up because inches hardware are so much more common over there...

Oh well....  :o

Whatever...,
Erick,
your question was, is the original thread M12 x 1.5 or 1.75.

Well, I haven't taken out my plug now from my 114's oil cooler (which is by the way absolutely identical to the 280 SL's oil-air heat exchanger)...,

but the Würth catalog (see link above)
says

M12 x 1.5 (mm).


Try to get it from your local Mercedes dealership.
It's not expensive .... ;) 8)


Good luck,

Achim

Title: Re: Oil cooler drain plug thread size...
Post by: Iconic on February 22, 2019, 22:48:46
What ....?   ???   :o :P :-X
Are you crazy .... uhem, serious?
Achim,
I really enjoy reading your posts !!! ... for several reasons !
Take care,
Mark
Title: Re: Oil cooler drain plug thread size...
Post by: Mike K on February 24, 2019, 07:05:24
Achim- you're not the first one to call me crazy.... :P ;)

You're correct, my car was a US version and imported back to France. The plug that I stripped was definitely the original oil cooler plug.
I still have it, and it looks identical to the one in the Wuerth link you posted, except that it's definitely an 11m or 7/16".

I was unable to find a replacement in Europe due to its imperial / US size.
The 11mm or 7/16" bolt that I eventually found and shortened is a perfect fit and has survived numerous oil changes since.

Best,
Mike