Pagoda SL Group

W113 Pagoda SL Group => Drive train, fuel, suspension, steering & brakes => Topic started by: rockingchairmotors on July 12, 2019, 20:46:01

Title: How to tell a 5 speed
Post by: rockingchairmotors on July 12, 2019, 20:46:01

I have been presented to me a supposed ZF 5 speed.

Can anyone tell me what to look for to determine if it is in fact a true ZF 5 speed. 

The number on the case is 111 261 05 01.  My info says that it is a 4 speed.  Am I wrong?  Can someone post a picture, if possible, of a 5 speed.

Thanks in advance.

Title: Re: How to tell a 5 speed
Post by: mbzse on July 12, 2019, 21:29:10

Quote from: rockingchairmotors

.../...Can anyone tell me what to look for to determine if it is in fact a true ZF 5 speed.../...

There is a manufacturers plate with the serial No of the box on its left side (see pic attached)
"ZF" is cast into the housing and the alloy rear end piece also.

Title: Re: How to tell a 5 speed
Post by: Benz Dr. on July 12, 2019, 22:07:38

Sure looks like the one I have.  One a 4 speed, reverse is to the left beside first gear. On a 5 speed, reverse is over to the right and below fifth gear. Pretty hard to confuse them.

Title: Re: How to tell a 5 speed
Post by: 114015 on July 12, 2019, 23:08:12

Naa.. Rockingchair....,

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Can anyone tell me what to look for to determine if it is in fact a true ZF 5 speed.

The number on the case is 111 261 05 01.  My info says that it is a 4 speed.  Am I wrong?

You are wrong.
That's an ordinary MB 4-speed gear box in the car you look at, no true 5-speed.
(5-speed probably only because there is also a reverse ...)
The real ZF 5-speed as pictured does not carry any MB numbers, only ZF numbers.
It's larger and much longer than the ordinary 4-speed.


Achim

Title: Re: How to tell a 5 speed
Post by: JamesL on July 13, 2019, 09:42:33

Doesn’t it go faster than a 4 speed?

Title: Re: How to tell a 5 speed
Post by: ejboyd5 on July 13, 2019, 11:45:57

Quote from: JamesL on July 13, 2019, 09:42:33

Doesn’t it go faster than a 4 speed?

Please remove tongue from cheek before posting.

Title: Re: How to tell a 5 speed
Post by: Benz Dr. on July 13, 2019, 18:33:20

I can always tell if it's a 5 speed transmission. I just can't tell it much.