Pagoda SL Group

W113 Pagoda SL Group => Drive train, fuel, suspension, steering & brakes => Topic started by: JPMOSE on August 08, 2020, 14:33:01

Title: Eberspaecher Versus Gillet Muffler
Post by: JPMOSE on August 08, 2020, 14:33:01
Has anyone noticed that the Gillet muffler (genuine MB) is more of a throaty  (deeper) sound than the original Eberspaecher?  Not that it sounds badly, but it is definitely more pronounced than before.  I kept the header pipes, but replaced every part behind it with genuine MB.  The only exception is the center muffler, which I purchased OEM Eberspaecher from Pelican Parts, as it was quite a bit lower in cost.  I%u2019m wondering if I should have done the same with the rear muffler too!  LOL
Title: Re: Eberspaecher Versus Gillet Muffler
Post by: Desertpagoda on August 09, 2020, 00:12:34
Who is prettier? The blonde or Brunette?
Title: Re: Eberspaecher Versus Gillet Muffler
Post by: Garry on August 09, 2020, 00:50:22
I would have thought each and all parts of the muffler system were tuned to each other and as a whole so changing a centre muffler to a different brand may be the cause for the change.
Title: Re: Eberspaecher Versus Gillet Muffler
Post by: wayne R on August 09, 2020, 13:55:24
Has anyone noticed that the Gillet muffler (genuine MB) is more of a throaty  (deeper) sound than the original Eberspaecher?  Not that it sounds badly, but it is definitely more pronounced than before.  I kept the header pipes, but replaced every part behind it with genuine MB.  The only exception is the center muffler, which I purchased OEM Eberspaecher from Pelican Parts, as it was quite a bit lower in cost.  I%u2019m wondering if I should have done the same with the rear muffler too!  LOL


I did  a similar   purchase  to you, couple of years ago when my Pagoda  came from CA, i purchased a  rear mufler
also from Pelican parts, was put in the trunk,but it was a Ansa,and im very happy with it,a little throaty as well.
Title: Re: Eberspaecher Versus Gillet Muffler
Post by: Peter on August 09, 2020, 19:25:26
Recently bought a completely new MB exhaust system. It was difficult to get all part as Gillet cease to exist and no MB replacement there yet.

The exhaust system was extremely expensive AND the sound is totally miserable.
Too loud and too low. After 15 minutes you are fed up of this!
If this is the original sound of Pagode in the “60 they would not have sold a single car.

To discuss this issue, I took contact with Mercedes Benz Classic Car Components in Stuttgart.
To could not give an answer due to Corona.

Title: Re: Eberspaecher Versus Gillet Muffler
Post by: Pawel66 on August 09, 2020, 19:51:49
I do have the exhaust system from MB except the front pipe that is still not available.

I, actually, like that low sound... a question of preferences...
Title: Re: Eberspaecher Versus Gillet Muffler
Post by: Peter on August 09, 2020, 21:47:01
It is certainly not the original sound, it’s what they think we like today.
It’s a shame!

^Peter

Title: Re: Eberspaecher Versus Gillet Muffler
Post by: JPMOSE on August 10, 2020, 15:06:34
Well....interesting responses!   I%u2019m beginning to think the front muffler, behind Eberspaecher, may actually tone it down a bit (versus having both be Gillet).  I drove the car again yesterday and actually enjoyed the sound...but I wouldn%u2019t want it louder.   I replaced the exhaust system on my 3.5 Cabriolet ten years ago (all genuine MB) and it is quieter.

But it%u2019s disappointing not to get the original sound!!
Title: Re: Eberspaecher Versus Gillet Muffler
Post by: Balsaeed on December 03, 2024, 20:36:00
Whats the difference between these two mufflers? They both are from factory when the cars were made? Any of them is stainless steel?
Title: Re: Eberspaecher Versus Gillet Muffler
Post by: Peter on December 03, 2024, 21:07:36
The first muffler is the back muffler. Form the others I do not see the MB number, but the shape is as a back muffler.
The Pagodas had metal exhaust system, a lot of replacements are today of stainless steel.