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W113 Pagoda SL Group => Drive train, fuel, suspension, steering & brakes => Topic started by: Figoulu on September 18, 2024, 09:41:53

Title: help required about engine overhauling
Post by: Figoulu on September 18, 2024, 09:41:53
Hi all

I couldnt seriously say that i browsed all the pages of this fantastic forum but since 2021 I guess I did a lot...
Unfortunately I couldnt find a kind of step by step engine overhauling, a sort of journey that could describe hints and "how to" in order to guide somebody who would like to take the challenge

Anybody to shed my light, and share a link ?

Thanks
Title: Re: help required about engine overhauling
Post by: Cees Klumper on September 18, 2024, 12:08:53
If it's not in the technical manual, then I suggest the Haynes manual which should have a pretty good step by step, with photos, guide.

I still need to set myself to converting the 8 hours of footage I have from Joe Alexander rebuilding my engine back in 2003 (!). So many other priorities ... but that was the goal and I will get it done some day.
Title: Re: help required about engine overhauling
Post by: rwmastel on September 18, 2024, 12:32:09
Give your video to Mizesko.  I'm sure he has time on his hands now that he's not returning as President.    ;D  ;D
Title: Re: help required about engine overhauling
Post by: BobH on September 18, 2024, 12:46:40
Hi all

I couldnt seriously say that i browsed all the pages of this fantastic forum but since 2021 I guess I did a lot...
Unfortunately I couldnt find a kind of step by step engine overhauling, a sort of journey that could describe hints and "how to" in order to guide somebody who would like to take the challenge

Anybody to shed my light, and share a link ?

Thanks

Not sure if you mean engine rebuilding, if you mean general tips for tuning, poor running etc, have another look on here, as well as JA's starting advice, all of Roch's tips for poor running are now on here as well

https://www.sl113.org/wiki/Restricted/Engine-starting-aid-tour
Title: Re: help required about engine overhauling
Post by: Figoulu on September 18, 2024, 13:11:43
Not sure if you mean engine rebuilding, if you mean general tips for tuning, poor running etc, have another look on here, as well as JA's starting advice, all of Roch's tips for poor running are now on here as well

https://www.sl113.org/wiki/Restricted/Engine-starting-aid-tour

Thanks

I know this part of the forum, but I was much more on a step by step engine rebuilt sequence
Title: Re: help required about engine overhauling
Post by: mdsalemi on September 18, 2024, 14:00:42
I still need to set myself to converting the 8 hours of footage I have from Joe Alexander rebuilding my engine back in 2003 (!). So many other priorities ... but that was the goal and I will get it done some day.

Rodd's joking aside, one of the initiatives that's been tossed around at board meetings for the past couple of years is good video. It takes someone with video editing expertise to parse it out, edit it, etc. It's not an easy or quick task...but the fact you have the raw footage from 21 years ago is a start.

In addition, video shot in 2003 may be very different than something shot today. What format is it in? 8MM tape? VHS? Something else? Would have to be converted to use in a modern editing program; that by itself is a task.
Title: Re: help required about engine overhauling
Post by: Cees Klumper on September 18, 2024, 14:24:53
I used a small Sony videorecorder with small tapes; I do believe the camera, which I still have and it should still work, has digital outputs that, to the best of my knowledge, can 'transmit' the information in a digital format onto a computer. I will investigate when I get back to France at the end of next week (am in Croatia for work at the moment).
It is similar to this model:

https://cameraexc.com/products/sony-ccd-trv22-video-8-handycam-camcorder
Title: Re: help required about engine overhauling
Post by: Figoulu on September 18, 2024, 19:05:01
I remember asking you the question where in France but I forgot... :)
Eastern part no ?
Title: Re: help required about engine overhauling
Post by: Cees Klumper on September 19, 2024, 02:59:32
We're in the Haute-Marne, not far from Langres and Dijon.
Title: Re: help required about engine overhauling
Post by: Figoulu on September 19, 2024, 06:06:16
Yep now it rang the bell 😅
Title: Re: help required about engine overhauling
Post by: stickandrudderman on September 19, 2024, 14:28:40
(am in Croatia for work at the moment).


Me too, but no working involved!
Title: Re: help required about engine overhauling
Post by: Peter van Es on September 23, 2024, 10:20:34
I used a small Sony videorecorder with small tapes; I do believe the camera, which I still have and it should still work, has digital outputs that, to the best of my knowledge, can 'transmit' the information in a digital format onto a computer. I will investigate when I get back to France at the end of next week (am in Croatia for work at the moment).
It is similar to this model:

https://cameraexc.com/products/sony-ccd-trv22-video-8-handycam-camcorder

Most of these tiny camcorders had the DV video format (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DV_(video_format)). I still have one of these video camcorders lying around. It has an IEEE 1394 (FireWire) digital output which allows me to transfer the digital video format straight into a PC. However... most PC's don't have an IEEE 1394 interface port anymore -- but I still have one old laptop which has one.

If it is video 8 you need a capture board (AV to USB or something (https://www.amazon.com/Capture-Digital-Converter-Grabber-Windows/dp/B0D86QG8NJ/)).

In general I would recommend getting the raw footage on your PC pronto... the camcorder capstans (rubber) will wear out or get sticky which will ruin the transfer.

And as another bit of advice: if you have footage on your PC converted some years ago (or even stored on CD-ROMs) do transfer it to an SSD hard disk soonest. CD-ROM's also suffer from bit-rot.

Whilst you are at it, use a tool like HandBrake (https://handbrake.fr) to convert your video to a modern video format with much better compression.

Peter