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W113 Pagoda SL Group => General Discussion => Topic started by: Rolf on May 22, 2007, 13:31:22

Title: 230 Wiring Diagram
Post by: Rolf on May 22, 2007, 13:31:22
I am looking for wiring diagrams for my 230 SL. I have a BBB but, I can not find any diagrams specifically for it. The problem is as follows. The car will not kick down until it slows to about 27 MPH, it will not over that speed. The linkage is free. I checked the solenoid and found out that there is voltage to some of the pins but not all. Some of the wiring that does have voltage loses it when there is a load put on. I am looking for the diagrams so I can figure out where the wiring begins and terminates without having to phsically follow every wire. Are there any out there and if so, where?  Thank You


Rolf
1966 230SL Auto
1992 300D
1991 FLHS
Title: Re: 230 Wiring Diagram
Post by: Klaus on May 22, 2007, 15:08:17
Wiring diagrams in color were sent with PagodaWorld 7 to all full members.
Proof, it pays to be a full member!

Klaus
1969 280 SL
Title: Re: 230 Wiring Diagram
Post by: Cees Klumper on May 22, 2007, 15:45:13
Rolf - I still have two no. 7 issues left with the wiring diagrams. Let me know if you would like to purchase one.

Cees ("Case") Klumper in Amsterdam
'69 white 280 SL automatic
Title: Re: 230 Wiring Diagram
Post by: Rolf on May 22, 2007, 16:50:56
Klaus,

  I am a paying member but, I do not have one. When were they sent out?

Rolf
1966 230SL Auto
1992 300D
1991 FLHS
Title: Re: 230 Wiring Diagram
Post by: merrill on May 22, 2007, 18:53:18
Rolf,
check out the instruction at this web site

http://www.mercedesdismantlers.com//16BoltInstallationInstructions.html

I had mis wired the switch at the throttle body and the selenoid was not working correctly.

good luck
matt

Matt
Austin Tx
66 230 sl - "white"
78 300 D - Blue
98 C230
Title: Re: 230 Wiring Diagram
Post by: Rolf on May 22, 2007, 19:24:30
Matt,

 Thank you for the link. The wires are connected ok. I do not get any voltage from a couple and I get 12 volts from others but, I do not get the voltage on those when under load. One I do get voltage under load. I need to find where these wires are coming from and would like a diagram in order to trace them out without going through following them all. The fuses are good.

Rolf
1966 230SL Auto
1992 300D
1991 FLHS
Title: Re: 230 Wiring Diagram
Post by: Rolf on May 22, 2007, 19:25:28
Cees,

 Let me know how much a copy is. I would very much like one for this problem.  Thank You

Rolf
1966 230SL Auto
1992 300D
1991 FLHS
Title: Re: 230 Wiring Diagram
Post by: angelo on May 22, 2007, 22:16:53
Cees

My name is angelo I just restored a 230sl 1963 vintage s/n1207 and would very much like to buy one of those copies you have in Color. My e-mail is cirvw1@aol.com please advise if still available and how much you would want I live in Long Beach California zip code 90808
Title: Re: 230 Wiring Diagram
Post by: hands_aus on May 23, 2007, 04:12:18
Aren't the wiring diagrams in the BBB for manual cars and do not show the auto solenoid wiring?

I think it is the same thing for the wiring diagrams included in that Pagoda World.

Bob Smith (Brisbane,Australia)
RHD,1967 early 250 SL, auto
Title: Re: 230 Wiring Diagram
Post by: Rolf on May 23, 2007, 06:32:51
The diagrams in the BBB are for Models 190c, 190Dc, 220b, 220Sb, 220Seb and 220 Seb Coupe B. There is no mention, as far as I can see, of the Pagodas.

Rolf
1966 230SL Auto
1992 300D
1991 FLHS
Title: Re: 230 Wiring Diagram
Post by: graphic66 on May 23, 2007, 07:21:13
The site that Merril so kindly posted has the wiring diagram at the bottom for the automatic tranny.http://www.mercedesdismantlers.com/16BoltInstallationInstructions.html
Title: Re: 230 Wiring Diagram
Post by: JimVillers on May 23, 2007, 08:30:39
I'll try to attach a wiring diagram.

Jim Villers
190SL, 230SL 5-Speed, 190E 2.3-16 Kompressor, MGB 5-Speed
Title: Re: 230 Wiring Diagram
Post by: JimVillers on May 23, 2007, 08:32:49
I'll try again.
(http:// uploaded/JimVillers/2007523103130_230SLwire1.jpg )


Jim Villers
190SL, 230SL 5-Speed, 190E 2.3-16 Kompressor, MGB 5-Speed
Title: Re: 230 Wiring Diagram
Post by: JimVillers on May 23, 2007, 08:34:55
I couldn't post the key in the previous post so here it is.
 (http:// uploaded/JimVillers/2007523103435_230SLwire2.jpg )

Jim Villers
190SL, 230SL 5-Speed, 190E 2.3-16 Kompressor, MGB 5-Speed
Title: Re: 230 Wiring Diagram
Post by: merrill on May 23, 2007, 10:53:39
Rolf,
no problem

when using the steps in the link, I was able to find my electrical problems.
with the help of an assistant you can check the selenoid action.
once that is straight then you move on to the vacuume side.

matt

Matt
Austin Tx
66 230 sl - "white"
78 300 D - Blue
98 C230
Title: Re: 230 Wiring Diagram
Post by: Rolf on May 27, 2007, 04:37:49
Thank You all for your help. Now I just have to get it all done.

Rolf
1966 230SL Auto
1992 300D
1991 FLHS
Title: Re: 230 Wiring Diagram
Post by: 190SL on July 28, 2007, 18:23:08
would like to purchase the color wiring diagram for the 230sl you mentioned. also, for 190sl, if you have
just starting to restore a 23sl 280sl and 190sl
thanks
al;
Title: Re: 230 Wiring Diagram
Post by: hands_aus on July 29, 2007, 04:18:08
quote:
Originally posted by 190SL

would like to purchase the color wiring diagram for the 230sl you mentioned. also, for 190sl, if you have
just starting to restore a 23sl 280sl and 190sl
thanks
al;


Hi,

Have a look here http://www.pagode.info/29.htm


Bob Smith (Brisbane,Australia)
RHD,1967 early 250 SL, auto
Title: Re: 230 Wiring Diagram
Post by: merrill on July 29, 2007, 11:12:54
so, I am also having problems with my kick down switch, which by the way worked the other day AND worked properly when installed. (I followed the instructions from the mercedes dismantlers link)

last night I pulled out the color wiring diagram from the pagoda world and the double acting seleniod from fuse number 3 is not in the schematic.  

I think the mb cd or service manual has more info.

sorry

Matt
Austin Tx
66 230 sl - "white"
78 300 D - Blue
98 C230
Title: Re: 230 Wiring Diagram
Post by: merrill on July 29, 2007, 13:20:22
Rolf,
here are some schematics,

Download Attachment: (http://images/icon_paperclip.gif) tranny schematic 2.JPG (http://www.sl113.org/forums/uploaded/merrill/2007729151739_tranny%20schematic%202.JPG)
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Matt
Austin Tx
66 230 sl - "white"
78 300 D - Blue
98 C230
Title: Re: 230 Wiring Diagram
Post by: merrill on July 29, 2007, 13:21:07


Download Attachment: (http://images/icon_paperclip.gif) tranny schematic.JPG (http://www.sl113.org/forums/uploaded/merrill/2007729152052_tranny%20schematic.JPG)
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here is another

Matt
Austin Tx
66 230 sl - "white"
78 300 D - Blue
98 C230
Title: Re: 230 Wiring Diagram
Post by: glennard on August 01, 2007, 01:41:33
In the process of making a 'ladder diagram' of the Pagoda wiring.  
Had a prelim at PUB.
Title: Re: 230 Wiring Diagram
Post by: rwmastel on August 01, 2007, 08:02:33
quote:
Originally posted by Rolf

I am looking for wiring diagrams for my 230 SL. I have a BBB but, I can not find any diagrams specifically for it.
The wiring diagram posted by Jim Villers is availabe in full color in Pagoda World #7.  Let me know if you need a copy.

The "ladder diagram" Glenn is working on is really neat.  He'll send me a had done copy and I'll put it into an electrical diagram software package.  It should turn out great!

Rodd
Powell, Ohio, USA
1966 230SL, Euro, Auto, Leather, both  tops
1994 E420
Title: Re: 230 Wiring Diagram
Post by: merrill on August 10, 2007, 08:58:37
check your owners manual, I found a schematic on page 10

Download Attachment: (http://images/icon_paperclip.gif) kickdown.jpg (http://www.sl113.org/forums/uploaded/merrill/2007810105828_kickdown.jpg)
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Matt
Austin Tx
66 230 sl - "white"
78 300 D - Blue
98 C230