Pagoda SL Group
W113 Pagoda SL Group => Electrical and Instruments => Topic started by: vince mulvey on April 24, 2008, 12:11:51
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hi all
my battery has died. any reccomendations
thanks in advance
vince
silver auto 280 sl with burgundy interior
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optima red top
paulr
1970 280 SL
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(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2255/2152861457_650bd1a1d9_o.jpg)
John
1967 Early 250 SL Red/Caviar, Manual
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John
Have you got the part number for that battery? ;)
Oddly enough, I don't think I could install that anyway. My battery bracket crosses the top of the battery and secures with 2 wingnuts. So I assume a "flat-top" battery is what I'd need.
James Lester
RHD 280 in DB906 with cognac leather
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<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by ToshI don't think I could install that anyway. My battery bracket crosses the top of the battery and secures with 2 wingnuts<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
The correct hardware for mounting the battery in a W113 is what you see in John's picture, a square metal frame and two "J" hooks with M6 thread.
Measurement for the battery itself are width 170mm, length 260mm and height 200mm. Battery posts will add some height (222mm in all). Battery can't be too high, as this will interfere with the hood (bonnet).
/Hans in Sweden
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quote:
Originally posted by vince mulvey
hi all
my battery has died. any recommendations
Yes. Replace the battery. :)
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I found that the Energizer battery part# e36R with 810 cranking amps and 650 CCA fits perfect. You just need to grind the lip on the bottom of the battery that is for a hold down bracket off. Whats up with the cheap flimsy metal used on the battery tray. I ordered the Mercedes OEM replacement and it was thin junk. I used my mig welder and made reinforcements for where the hooks go that hold the battery in. I also reinforced the tray where it mounts. It really just bent up when any force was applied to the battery holddown. It now is rock steady and you can't see any modification from the top.
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Mine is the same...are we freaks?
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Originally posted by Tosh
John
Have you got the part number for that battery? ;)
Oddly enough, I don't think I could install that anyway. My battery bracket crosses the top of the battery and secures with 2 wingnuts. So I assume a "flat-top" battery is what I'd need.
James Lester
RHD 280 in DB906 with cognac leather
paulr
1970 280 SL
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quote:
Originally posted by paulr
Mine is the same...are we freaks?
Not sure, it was in the car when I bought it.
John
1967 Early 250 SL Red/Caviar, Manual
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It's a shame Mercedes doesn't offer a dry battery.
1969 280sl 5 spd
Gainesville, Fl.
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I have an off the shelf Optima Red top in my car. I used the kind of aftermarket hold down that Paul and James have. There are no clearance or vibration problems, and NO starting problems. It isn't original, just practical.
Ray
'68 280SL 4-spd Coupe
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The Optima 34R comes with a height adjuster and fits perfectly but its foot print is a little smaller. To prevent side movement I put a bit of molding epoxy putty (Marine-Tex) in the 4 corners on the tray and painted it black. My top bracket is different because of the added shut-off switch but has the same dimensions and J-bolts as the original.
No more worries about overfilling and/or leaking battery acid! :)
(http://www.sl113.org/forums/uploaded/66andBlue/200842614647_Battery.jpg)
Alfred
1966 blue 230SL automatic
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Installed an Optima today and now have a huge difference in the way the car starts up. My old battery Astro Lite was installed in the car when I purchased it. It lasted just over seven years. http://www.fondyautoelectric.com/webpages/astrolite.html
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Sears Die Hard International; lasted 8yrs, $75
Having a trickle charger, makes a huge diference in startup as well
I used to have the griots cut-off switch; and would need 3-5 cranks
w/Battery tender its instant.
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Measurements for the battery itself are width 170mm, length 260mm and height 200mm. Battery can't be too high, as this will interfere with the hood (bonnet).
/Hans in Sweden
The measurements given by Hans match those of the Mercedes battery, part number 003-541-33-01-26, which now lists for $232 (!!). As given by various posts, the correct size code is 24F. Checking specifications, I thought at first this would be too tall, but it turns out that Hans' height measurement does not include the battery posts, but the dimensions I found for size 24F all did.
The dimensions do differ a bit from battery to battery. For example (lincluding the battery posts).
| Length (mm) | Width (mm) | Height (mm) | Length (in) | Width (in) | Height (in) |
| Orig: | 260 | 170 | 222 | 10 1/4 | 6 11/16 | 8 3/4 |
| BCI 24F: | 273 | 173 | 229 | 10 3/4 | 6 13/16 | 9 |
| Interstate: |
| MTP-24F | 279 | 175 | 222 | 11 | 7 7/8 | 8 3/4 |
| MT-24F or I-24F | 260 | 175 | 222 | 10 1/4 | 7 7/8 | 8 3/4 |
BCI stands for Battery Council International
Chris
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Can someone assist with a clearance issue.
My next task on my project is to manufacture a new battery carrier/holder, the original is 10 3/8 inches long and the modern battery that i would like to fit is the BCI 24F which is 10 3/4inches long.
Can someone measure there installation and inform me if i increase my new carrier to 10 3/4inches i will not have a clearance problem with something in that area.
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Chris,
Thanks for the measurements!! I'm buying a battery this weekend and will print these and take them along with me. I'm replacing a DieHard that was in the car when I bought it almost 9 years ago, so 'll probably get another DieHard.