Pagoda SL Group
W113 Pagoda SL Group => Electrical and Instruments => Topic started by: hill on May 30, 2008, 21:02:01
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I have a radio from blaupunkt. It has three bands labled L M U with a transformer on the back for six or twelve volts. Doe's this seem to be something that belongs in a early 250sl?
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I have been told that Blaupunkt radios were installed in some W113 cars, but Becker had the majority of the market. If you provide a picture, and maybe a model number, then some radio specialist may be able to tell you if it's period correct. When was the last time someone manufactured a car with a 6 volt electrical system?
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Originally posted by rwmastel
I have been told that Blaupunkt radios were installed in some W113 cars, but Becker had the majority of the market. If you provide a picture, and maybe a model number, then some radio specialist may be able to tell you if it's period correct. When was the last time someone manufactured a car with a 6 volt electrical system?
My TR2 from 63 and VW untill 68 and Aston martin before 63
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Originally posted by rwmastel
I have been told that Blaupunkt radios were installed in some W113 cars, but Becker had the majority of the market. If you provide a picture, and maybe a model number, then some radio specialist may be able to tell you if it's period correct. When was the last time someone manufactured a car with a 6 volt electrical system?
I have lost ny last digcam will send pics. No #s available the paper stickers are trashed.
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My late 66' US delivery 230SL has the Blaupunkt in it. It appears to be original. It isn't on the data card as I think these were installed by the dealer. It works just fine and looks very nice.
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The old story goes is that Blaupunkts were dealer installed radios. The factory only put in Becker's.
The LMU bands indicate--I think--a radio made for the European market. USA would only have AM/FM at best. Anyone verify that?
The Blaupunkts are hard to repair I'm told, but there is a member of our local MBCA club that repairs them as well as all other manner of old radios and electrical equipment. There's also that guy on the west coast that does old radios--Walter Odemer, I believe.
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My late 250 has a Blaupunkt AM FM SW (short wave). works agreat but could use a new face plate, mine is cracked:(
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My 1966 230SL has the original dealer installed Blaupunkt AM/FM/SW radio, complete with owner and installation manuals and warranty card.
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I'll shoot and post a detail shot when I get home.
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Thanks all for the info. It is the one Mike H has. I am seeing a radio restorer next week to see if it works. If it is dead Then Don will have a early christmas.
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Early 250, dealer install. I have all the manuals, I think.
FM station is tuned to receive my music from my TomTom 720 GPS and listen through the dash speaker. I think I can go one step further and plug my IPod into my TomTom, but haven't tried yet.
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Originally posted by thelews
Early 250, dealer install. I have all the manuals, I think.
FM station is tuned to receive my music from my TomTom 720 GPS and listen through the dash speaker. I think I can go one step further and plug my IPod into my TomTom, but haven't tried yet.
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That is just like mine with the exception of the band with names.
Same color dash also.
Darryl E. Hill
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From the photo, it appears to be a Blaupunkt "New Yorker" just like the one in my 250SL built in autumn 1967.
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My '68 Coupe has the Blaupunkt just like the photo. It still works great. These are far more common in the US cars than anywhere else.
The US tarriff laws used to tax cars on their values with all the goodies installed. However, there was no tarriff on parts. So all the manufacturers from Toyota to Mercedes would import the cars stripped down and the dealers or port processors would install the options. That's why the Frigi-king A/C systems were common in the US. The tax law was intended to generate jobs for American dealers and it worked for decades.
In the Hi-Fi shops of the day, you could buy Blaupunkt tuners for your home. So, American customers who had never heard of Becker, chose Blaupunkt because it carried that "Euro-chic" cachet.
I'm keeping my Blaupunkt as long as it keeps working. Funny but it seems to get Oldies stations better than Urban Contemporary. ;)
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Originally posted by Raymond
In the Hi-Fi shops of the day, you could buy Blaupunkt tuners for your home. So, American customers who had never heard of Becker, chose Blaupunkt because it carried that "Euro-chic" cachet.
Yes, and many who were stationed in Germany in the '50s and '60s remember the fine Blaupunkt and Gründig stereo consoles that were all the rage at the time. Thus Blaupunkt was a familiar quality name that many associated with their overseas tours and seemed a natural upgrade for a quality German car.
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I also have an Blaupunkt radio that came with my 1970 280SL Euro. It had been replaced with a trash Sherwood AM/FM cassette player, but appears to still work. It also has the L M buttons and can work with 6 or 12 volt.
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I have the Blau with SW band in mine ('67 230)- strange because not many of us in the USA listened to SW...and you had to be sitting still to even hope to maintain the signal.
Regards,
Kevin
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Originally posted by halman2228
I have the Blau with SW band in mine ('67 230)- strange because not many of us in the USA listened to SW...and you had to be sitting still to even hope to maintain the signal.
Is anything broadcast in shortwave now? Weather? US Armed Forces Radio? Anything?
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BBC!
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Originally posted by Mike Hughes
BBC!
Not in the US they don't! They haven't broadcast for over 7 years... I was pretty bummed out when they stopped doing that. Now my BBC listening pleasure is tethered to a streaming-internet connection.
I think shortwave will come in handy when anarchy reigns and we 113 rebels need some ancient technology with which to communicate. (about our problems with said ancient technology...)
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On the east coast we can occasionally pick up some European SW broadcasts when the atmospherics are just right. That is how I once found BBC, but the reception was spotty at best. It was just neat to discover that the SW band on my radio worked! Let's just say that (at least in the U.S.!) SW is a nice period feature that is useful as a conversation piece and adds to the European character of our Pagodas.
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Originally posted by Sandy
From the photo, it appears to be a Blaupunkt "New Yorker" just like the one in my 250SL built in autumn 1967.
I think it's the Blaupunkt "Frankfurt", but regardless, it's the right radio, and yes there is a jumper on the back to change it from 6 volt to 12 volt and from + ground to - ground. I just spent $350 with Walter Odemer to have it rebuilt and I'm not happy with how it sounds at all.
Question to others with this radio: When, if ever, does the radio illuminate? And if it illuminates, is it just a little red dot or is it actually a light that shows the whole dial scale? Thanks Scott
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The whole dial scale illuminates whenever you turn on the radio. It is not regulated by the instrument lighting rheostat or otherwise dependent upon the light switch being turned on.