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General Discussion / Re: Tracking History of NATO Car
« Last post by zoegrlh on April 03, 2025, 14:05:01 »
I agree with you Sam, car was most likely brought back to Canada upon Capt Lavoie’s return after duty with NATO forces. I would try to do a search for that name living or did live in Canada. Also then look up Kron. Got to be a way to do that.
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General Discussion / Re: Really Early W113 Photo
« Last post by zoegrlh on April 03, 2025, 13:41:44 »
Photo looks like it was taken at the New York Auto Show (63’ or 64’). Max brought those cars over.
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Hey all. I have a 1969 Mercedes 280sl that I brought home in June of ‘24. I’ve been chasing down some demons ever since I took ownership, and I like to think that I’m mechanically able. I’m having some pretty tricky rough idle and rough running (when it feels like running) issues. I’ve search through the forums and pieced together info on many issues, but I felt like it would be worth it to make this post. This car is verified to have only 14,800 original miles, but it was stored nicely in a garage in non-running condition for 25+ years. It’s in amazing shape cosmetically, but it’s not the best mechanically at the moment. I’d love some advice on changing that last part!

Here’s a list of the engine related work I’ve done minus a few things:

Replaced Fuel Tank
Cleaned Electric Fuel Pump
Replaced All Soft Fuel Lines/Filters
Cleaned Hard Fuel Lines
Verified Functionality of CSV
Valve Adjustment
Valve Seals
Compression Test - All cylinders hold about 160psi
Cooling Channels Cleaned in Block
New Water Pump
Throttle Linkages Are to Spec
Valve Timing and FIP timing are set to correct spec

There’s lots more necessary work that’s been done to revive this car with the goal of preserving it and ensuring it’s health for many miles to come.

Now, the engine cranks well. It will typically start quickly on the first go. It idles POORLY (makes a deep rumble too). Maybe sitting at about 500rpm idle, does not like to rev up, and does not smooth out at higher revs. It tends to die after about 30 seconds. At a second attempt, it cranks but doesn’t start, although it tries. By the third attempt it only cranks. I don’t crank it for very long obviously, but I can’t figure it out at this point! The plugs are fouling with carbon very quickly, they’re gapped to .030, and black after maybe 30 seconds or running. I know these cars like to running rich, and maybe it’s just because there is excessive fuel when attempting to start, but that seems like a short amount of time to foul plugs.

Like I mentioned I’m an able mechanic and like to think that I’m not a hack, but this car is kicking my ass! There is also some fuel in the distributor vacuum line if anyone has some special knowledge on what that may cause.

I’m definitely missing some info here and I would very much appreciate some advice - and if I mentioned something that you know to be very wrong, please tell me! Thanks!
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General Discussion / Re: 5 speed
« Last post by Jack the Knife on April 03, 2025, 12:05:45 »
I have the Getrag 265/5 5 speed installed in my 230SL and the Fifth has 0.8 ratio, its a huge difference. I bought a used gearbox and the installation parts from Wolfgang in Germany and drove it last season, unfortunately the gearbox was in worse condiction then expected so I had it rebuilt in the beginninging in 2025 and now its installed again and it is like new car.
My gearbox was rebuilt Hulleman classic gear in NL, grate job well documented.

Just FYI for those at home -- 265/5 is the racing gearbox (close ratio, no OD 5th) which has very slightly different dimensions to the 265/6, which is the one with the OD 5th and what is in your car. I tried to fit the 265/5 into my car and was not successful, and opted for a 265/6 instead. Seconding Wolfgang as the source, but I have bought two kits from him and his packaging job needs work.
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General Discussion / Re: 5 speed
« Last post by mdsalemi on April 03, 2025, 11:17:32 »
…unfortunately the gearbox was in worse condiction then expected so I had it rebuilt in the beginninging…

When my car was restored in 1999–2001, I made the mistake of having the transmission put back without any knowledge of its condition. It was slipping and needed a rebuild. While an automatic, “take the point”; if you have the tranny out—any tranny—ensure that what you replace is in excellent condition…

…unless you enjoy taking transmissions out or paying someone to do it.

If in doubt: rebuild it. You won’t be sorry, you cannot be sorry when a rebuilt part is installed. But when you go through the effort of swapping any part and then find out that it’s not working properly… that is when you’ll be sorry.

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Items for Sale / Re: Hella 160 clear fog lights
« Last post by spridget on April 03, 2025, 09:00:45 »
Price reduced at 200 euros
Franck
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General Discussion / Re: Insurance weirdness.
« Last post by Hamid Turbo on April 03, 2025, 03:13:52 »
I have been using PROGRESSIVE on my cars for a long time, they have good rates and have never had any problems.
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Items for Sale / Re: 1969 European 280SL Automatic $49,000
« Last post by Cees Klumper on April 03, 2025, 00:42:06 »
Nice color! Are you sure those wheels are original? At least the hubcaps look like they belong to a (much) older Pagoda.
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I believe the part circled in blue is the rubber dust cover. The bushings at the bottom of the shift rod are 2 nylon concave bushings that wrap around the ball at the bottom of the shifter.
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Items for Sale / 1969 European 280SL Automatic $49,000
« Last post by 69EUROPAGODA on April 02, 2025, 21:47:55 »
After over 40 years in the family, it is time for our European Numbers-matching 3-owner 1969 280SL Automatic with 93,376 original KILOMETERS...to find a new home!  Below are a few initial details for your consideration:

- Imported from Germany in 1972 (second owner purchasing from original owner) as a high school graduation gift
- In 1982, the second owner's boyfriend damaged the front valance (aesthetic/cosmetic only)
- Instead of repairing the vehicle, having owned it for 10 years, the second owner decided to sell
- Purchased by our family in 1982 from second owner
- During the aesthetic/cosmetic repairs, our family changed the color from white to silver and reupholstered the interior
- The car has lived in Arizona since 1972 and garage kept
- in 2023 we:
  - Replaced the fuel system (tank/lines/filters/pump)
  - Installed new tires
  - Reconditioned the wheels (media blasted, primed, painted to match the car)
  - Replaced the brakes
  - Installed a new alternator
  - Paint work / Rejuvenation
  - More info. available upon request*
- Data card in-hand to verify vehicle information
- The soft top is intact, however it will not fully extend to the windshield due to two pieces (one on each of the base mount/hinges) that have broken

ASKING $49,000 USD
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