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Items for Sale / Re: Ski Rack for Sale
« Last post by rmacka on November 22, 2024, 08:33:05 »hi , I joined here later on, is this ski rack still for sale ?
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Way Off Topic / Re: Sheer madness
« Last post by stickandrudderman on November 22, 2024, 08:29:51 »One of the most disappointing days of my life was a visit to the Tate Modern in London where I saw various "paintings" by Mark Rothko that were considered to be of sufficient merit as to be exhibited there and were therefore worth millions.
Then there was that untidy bedroom by Tracy Emin. A scene familiar to half the people on the planet who are fortunate enough to live in a building......
Then there was that untidy bedroom by Tracy Emin. A scene familiar to half the people on the planet who are fortunate enough to live in a building......
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Announcements / Re: Pagoda World Book III UPDATE
« Last post by Cees Klumper on November 22, 2024, 06:29:25 »Hear! Hear!
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Way Off Topic / Re: Sheer madness
« Last post by Cees Klumper on November 22, 2024, 06:27:58 »I've collected art since around 1986, my wife is an artist. We own maybe 30 or 40 works from artists other than hers, never counted them. We've spent (for us anyway) considerable amounts for works we fell in love with and although we have sold some over the years, to make room for new works, most we still have and enjoy.
All that to say that, in my experience, as in music and sports, there is a very steep and exponential hierarchy in art values: 90% of artists cannot make a living from what they create, 9% do ok, and the top 1% are valued at 100 or maybe even 1000 times what all the others are, combined. Kind of like how Messrs Musk, Gates, Arnnault and Bezos have net worths in the stratosphere compared to us here. It's the way of the world, no real rhyme or reason to it.
So, if a gazillionaire wants to compete on the latest hot piece of art, he (usually he) will have to bid high. Like sports clubs bid in the hundreds of millions for, a hot soccer player.
All that to say that, in my experience, as in music and sports, there is a very steep and exponential hierarchy in art values: 90% of artists cannot make a living from what they create, 9% do ok, and the top 1% are valued at 100 or maybe even 1000 times what all the others are, combined. Kind of like how Messrs Musk, Gates, Arnnault and Bezos have net worths in the stratosphere compared to us here. It's the way of the world, no real rhyme or reason to it.
So, if a gazillionaire wants to compete on the latest hot piece of art, he (usually he) will have to bid high. Like sports clubs bid in the hundreds of millions for, a hot soccer player.
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Way Off Topic / Re: Sheer madness
« Last post by Jonny B on November 22, 2024, 05:08:30 »Gotta admit I saw this earlier today (I think it was in the NYTimes) and did the same thing, "What the h#* is this?" Complete insanity. I have seen others along the way with the same sort of approach. One of my favorites (tongue definitely in cheek) is minimalist art - that is a big white or black "painting" (or pick the color of your choice) on an almost piece-of-plywood size canvas - and there is a gallery filled with them. Just goofy.
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Way Off Topic / Re: Sheer madness
« Last post by Jordan on November 22, 2024, 02:02:25 »I could have been a multi millionaire many times over. I don't know how many banana's I've duct taped to the wall. It just reminds me to have lunch. 
What's the expression, a fool and their money are soon parted. I just wish I knew more fools.
I remember a few years ago a painting that I think consisted of 3 stripes of paint, sold for many millions of dollars. I remember thinking, any third grader could have painted that. I think art and crypto are the two places any fool can loose or make a fortune very quickly.
What's the expression, a fool and their money are soon parted. I just wish I knew more fools. I remember a few years ago a painting that I think consisted of 3 stripes of paint, sold for many millions of dollars. I remember thinking, any third grader could have painted that. I think art and crypto are the two places any fool can loose or make a fortune very quickly.
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Way Off Topic / Re: Sheer madness
« Last post by 66andBlue on November 22, 2024, 01:57:57 »It was actually Marcel Duchamp who placed a urinal on a wall in an art exhibition in 1917.
You can read all about it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fountain_(Duchamp)
Duchamp was "involved in in the creation of an anti-rational, anti-art, proto-Dada cultural movement in New York City."
https://www.artsy.net/article/artsy-editorial-duchamps-urinal-changed-art-forever.
You can read all about it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fountain_(Duchamp)
Duchamp was "involved in in the creation of an anti-rational, anti-art, proto-Dada cultural movement in New York City."
https://www.artsy.net/article/artsy-editorial-duchamps-urinal-changed-art-forever.
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Way Off Topic / Re: Sheer madness
« Last post by mdsalemi on November 22, 2024, 00:08:48 »Bob,
I am educated in art. I have a degree in art, a BFA (bachelor of fine art) from a prestigious school (Carnegie-Mellon University) known for highly respected programs in design, painting, sculpture along with drama, musical theater. Oh yeah—engineering and computer science too.
One might think this gives me a tiny leg up in understanding this. No—not at all. I also don’t understand NFT. Virtual art…
Noted pop artist Andy Warhol once put a urinal on a wall in a gallery. Upon viewing someone said, “…that’s not art! Anyone can do that!” To which Andy replied “yes, but I did!”
I shake my head at a lot of this nonsense.
I am educated in art. I have a degree in art, a BFA (bachelor of fine art) from a prestigious school (Carnegie-Mellon University) known for highly respected programs in design, painting, sculpture along with drama, musical theater. Oh yeah—engineering and computer science too.
One might think this gives me a tiny leg up in understanding this. No—not at all. I also don’t understand NFT. Virtual art…
Noted pop artist Andy Warhol once put a urinal on a wall in a gallery. Upon viewing someone said, “…that’s not art! Anyone can do that!” To which Andy replied “yes, but I did!”
I shake my head at a lot of this nonsense.
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Drive train, fuel, suspension, steering & brakes / Re: ATE Front Brake Calipers
« Last post by Harry on November 22, 2024, 00:00:49 »ATE are good products. I installed those on my 230SL years ago. They bolted right up and haven't been a problem since. I think a lot of us wrestle with originality and aftermarket, as well as cost. This is an individual decision and there is no right or wrong as long as all parts are of good quality and function properly.
My personal perspective has been that I prefer to keep my car as true to original as possible, within some degree of reason. The calipers were an area where I wasn't bothered with a "non-original" part. The 123 distributor is another example where I was willing to go non-original to ultimately provide a more reliable solution.
I suppose a lot of that depends on your ultimate goals for the car.
Harry
My personal perspective has been that I prefer to keep my car as true to original as possible, within some degree of reason. The calipers were an area where I wasn't bothered with a "non-original" part. The 123 distributor is another example where I was willing to go non-original to ultimately provide a more reliable solution.
I suppose a lot of that depends on your ultimate goals for the car.
Harry
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Way Off Topic / Re: Sheer madness
« Last post by Merc_Girl on November 21, 2024, 23:59:20 »🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣