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tel76

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Connecting Rods.
« on: February 24, 2010, 09:03:09 »
The connecting rods on my 280 sl have two oil holes in the upper rod and the old bearings have corresponding holes in them,the new MB supplied bearings only have one oil hole.
Does anyone know if over the years the second oil hole has been deleted and for what reason?
Eric

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Re: Connecting Rods.
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2010, 14:10:07 »
Hello Eric,

There are actually two style rod bearings.  These are the manufacturer's numbers.......... for two oil holes the Glyco #is 71/2752/6  for oil one hole the Glyco # is 71/2974/6 .  The single hole seems to be a later version when the rods had only one hole. There are also  two style main bearings, it is critical that the right mains are used.  

« Last Edit: February 26, 2010, 14:03:34 by ja17 »
Joe Alexander
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1969 Dark Olive 280SL
2002 ML55 AMG (tow vehicle)
2002 SLK32 AMG (350 hp)
1982 300TD Wagon turbo 4spd.
1963 404 Mercedes Unimog (Swedish Army)
1989 flu419 Mercedes Unimog (US Army)
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Re: Connecting Rods.
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2010, 17:53:37 »
what is your experience with reusing rod bolts and nuts?
and rod bearing wear?
Thanks
Erick
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Re: Connecting Rods.
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2010, 02:16:28 »
Hello Erick,

I have not had any issues with reusing the old rod nuts and stretch bolts, but they should be checked. Defective, fatigued or over torqued stretch bolts will become permanently deformed and be too narrow.  These bolts can be checked. The "new diameter" of the small section of the bolt is listed in the BBB at 9.0 mm. The minimum diameter of a used rod stretch bolt is 7.8 mm. Connecting rod stretch bolts below this 7.8 mm diameter reading should be replaced. *BBB 03-0/2

Once the bolts have been checked , a torque setting of 29 ft. lb. (first pass) on each rod bolt, then bring each one up to 36 ft. lbs.(2nd pass),  then 90 to 100 degree angle of rotation (third pass) on the M129 (250 series) and M130 (280 series) connecting rods. I like to mark each rod bolts with some paint after the angle of rotation pass because there is no way to go back and double check these since you do not have a final toque figure.

The 230SL engine M127 is a different story (also same in 190SL). The diameter of the rod stretch bolts is smaller. The length of the rod bolt is measured before torque and after torque. When the bolt stretches .1mm it is correct. This .1mm of stretch will occur between 28 and 35 ft. lbs. normally. Working with one rod at a time, I usually start measuring each bolt length. After two passes bring the torque up to 28 Ft lbs. and measure the new length of the connecting rod stretch bolt, and continue if needed until .1mm stretch is achieved. If the .1mm stretch occurs before 27 ft. lbs. or after 34 ft. lbs. I replace the stretch bolt. No angle of rotation is used on these engines.  Needless to say you need to be good with a micrometer to achieve desired results! If a rod bolt stretches beyond the .1mm before 27 ft. lbs. is achieved, the bolt should be replaced since it is fatigued. A more detailed explanation  of the process is covered in the "Type 190" BBB page 01-4/32 also covered in the "Type 220" BBB. I am sure most shops are just torquing these rods in at 28 ft. lbs. which normally is sufficient. 

After torquing, I always check to make sure that the connecting rod assembly is free and not binding after the final torque.

Joe Alexander
Blacklick, Ohio
1969 Dark Olive 280SL
2002 ML55 AMG (tow vehicle)
2002 SLK32 AMG (350 hp)
1982 300TD Wagon turbo 4spd.
1963 404 Mercedes Unimog (Swedish Army)
1989 flu419 Mercedes Unimog (US Army)
1998 E430
1974 450SLC Rally
1965 220SE Finback

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Re: Connecting Rods.
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2010, 08:38:03 »
Hello JA,
Do you know after what engine number the rods went to one oil hole.
Eric

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Re: Connecting Rods.
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2010, 01:09:25 »
How many Pagodas are on the Isle of Man?   PPP Palatable Pagoda Paradise
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Re: Connecting Rods.
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2010, 21:21:07 »
Hello Glenn,
As far as i now mine is the only one,but you never know, there are some very exotic machines here that rarely see the light of day.
Eric