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Tom Colitt

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Who has a Pagoda Body Number ending in 461?...
« on: April 18, 2011, 23:58:32 »
The hood that used to be on that car is in my shop right now. (Attached to another car :-O)

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Re: Who has a Pagoda Body Number ending in 461?...
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2011, 07:02:04 »
Mine's a 463
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Re: Who has a Pagoda Body Number ending in 461?...
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2011, 11:42:17 »
Since only the last 3 digits of the body number are stamped on the hood, it is conceivable that there could be many cars with those same 3 digits. ??? ;D
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Re: Who has a Pagoda Body Number ending in 461?...
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2011, 22:04:24 »
True. But there are more numbers on the car :-)

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Re: Who has a Pagoda Body Number ending in 461?...
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2011, 22:19:55 »
Tom,

Where are the numbers stamped on the hood?

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Re: Who has a Pagoda Body Number ending in 461?...
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2011, 22:29:18 »
With the hood open, they would be near the top left corner (under hood drivers side closest to the driver) on a LHD car.
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Re: Who has a Pagoda Body Number ending in 461?...
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2011, 23:28:22 »
Yes. There should be 3 or 4 numbers to match the last 3 or 4 found on the data plate in the engine bay....

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Re: Who has a Pagoda Body Number ending in 461?...
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2011, 07:29:18 »
Tom,

my body number ends with 461, with the car now located down in New Zealand. Current hood doesn't have any numbers but I'm guessing its not actually from my car based on prior repaired accident damage on LH side. Repair work included a new LH fender which would make a replacement more likely but you never know.

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Re: Who has a Pagoda Body Number ending in 461?...
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2011, 14:50:31 »
That sounds like a contender. What color is your car?

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Re: Who has a Pagoda Body Number ending in 461?...
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2011, 07:02:04 »
original colour 304G horizon blue
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Tom Colitt

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Re: Who has a Pagoda Body Number ending in 461?...
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2011, 06:03:21 »
Hmm. The car is now White. I will do some further investigating to see if there is Blue underneath....

Tom

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Re: Who has a Pagoda Body Number ending in 461?...
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2011, 06:16:34 »
I can't find any Blue, but the color change is fairly thorough, so it might have been Blue. Where was your car from or where was it before it came to New Zealand?

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Re: Who has a Pagoda Body Number ending in 461?...
« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2011, 08:40:50 »
Is it possible  that the info:  we have which states that the last four digits of the chassis/frame# was stamped on the bonnet/hood,soft and hard top , boot/trunk lid at the factory on production is an old wives tail/myth.
My 1968 280sl last four digits are 4288 this is on the plate on the bulkhead and is also stamped on the right hand chassis leg.
The bonnet/hood, soft and hard top cover and the boot/trunk lid has 3757 stamped on them,when i removed the green paint that the PO had painted it i got down to the original colour,the underside of the bonnet/hood was also in the original colour once i removed the black paint.
It would seem hard to believe that at some stage in the past the above parts were fitted that were all the same colour,it is also worth noting that there was no sign of previous accident damage.
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Re: Who has a Pagoda Body Number ending in 461?...
« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2011, 20:05:34 »
 It seems you are confusing the chassis number (found on the right frame rail) with the body/aufbau number found on the body and paint plate. The tech manual states it correctly, also where the body and paint pate is located.
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1971 280 SL 462 Beige met, Brown leather
1968 280 SL 180 Silver, Red leather
1964 300 SE Lang 040 Black w/Red leather
1985 500 SL 735 Astral Silver w/Black leather
1987 560 SEC 199 Black met., Black leather

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Re: Who has a Pagoda Body Number ending in 461?...
« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2011, 07:30:31 »
No, i am not confusing the two,i have a plate screwed on the right hand side bulkhead and on it is the chassis#, on the right hand side chassis leg is stamped the same  #.
The paint details are stamped on the plate on the left hand side adjacent to the relays.
I should have also reported in the above post that when i stripped the hard top down and i removed the old insulation, written in chalk on the panel that goes across the rear under the rear screen was 728,this is the paint code number that is stamped on the plate on the lhs.
So it would appear the hardtop was painted in the correct colour with 3757 stamped on it and fitted to a body with 4288 stamped on it.
Eric

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Re: Who has a Pagoda Body Number ending in 461?...
« Reply #15 on: May 15, 2011, 14:27:36 »
Well, its certainly not a myth entirely, as the number on my hood and soft-top case (and hard I think -- will confirm) match my Aufbau Nummer on my Body and Paint Plate and the Data Card box 18...

My chassis number, of course, is different -- that one is on firewall plate, subframe chassis leg, and also the data card box b and box 5. (Early data card)
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Re: Who has a Pagoda Body Number ending in 461?...
« Reply #16 on: May 15, 2011, 15:04:22 »
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Is it possible  that the info:  we have which states that the last four digits of the chassis/frame# was stamped on the bonnet/hood,

It seemed like a possible explanation since you where referring to the last four digits of  the Chassisnr in your statement above.
What's the VIN/Chassis NR. of the car and what's the production number of the car?
 If you have a picture of the body/paint plate you're referring to that might assist in  explaining the issue.
The best is probably to get the body/aufbau number from the datacard for the car, since the body/paint plate could easily have been
changed, for whatever reason.

Hans K, Cuenca, Spain
1968 280 SL 387 Blue met., parchment leather
1971 280 SL 462 Beige met, Brown leather
1968 280 SL 180 Silver, Red leather
1964 300 SE Lang 040 Black w/Red leather
1985 500 SL 735 Astral Silver w/Black leather
1987 560 SEC 199 Black met., Black leather

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Re: Who has a Pagoda Body Number ending in 461?...
« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2011, 21:03:19 »
Hi Tel

I think you were still comparing the wrong numbers as this is definitely not an old wives tale. You should look at the last 5 numbers on the data plate on the left side where the relay tray is. 3 to 4 of those numbers should match the numbers found on the rest of your parts....

I now also have a hard top with the numbers 6664 on that same car which also don't match. Whose car did that originally come from? :-)....

Best, Tom
« Last Edit: May 24, 2011, 00:40:57 by Tom Colitt »

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Re: Who has a Pagoda Body Number ending in 461?...
« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2011, 10:11:05 »
Hello Hans and Tom,
I was informed by a so called expert that it was the last four numbers of the chassis # that was stamped on the  parts.
I should have checked in the Tech: manual first.
As you both so correctly pointed out it is the last four on the plate adjacent to the relays
All my # are correct,i must try harder,you cannot get the staff these days
Eric