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Garry
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Platinum
Australia, Victoria, Kyneton and Brisbane Queensland
Posts: 5235
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Engine Rebuild
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June 04, 2012, 05:00:46 »
Well, my mechanic did a second compression test on the 230SL both wet and dry and unfortunately the figures are not looking good at all. 110 on No. 1 and 120/125 on the remaining both wet and dry. Looks like a complete rebuild. The next thing is to get the bore measurements to see if it is new pistons as well. Sort of expected but still Ouch :'(
Garry
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Garry Marks
Melbourne/ Kyneton, Brisbane. Australia
1969 MB 280SL 5 speed RHD SOLD.
1965 MB 230SL Auto RHD Lt Blue 334G, Top 350H, Tourist Delivery.
1972 MB 280CE Auto RHD 906G
2005 MB A200
2006 MB B200
2019 Izuzu DMax 4x4 Slide-on camper.
2022 Volvo XC40 Electric
2024 Volvo EX30 Electric
franjo_66
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Silver
Australia, NSW, Point Piper
Posts: 458
Re: Engine Rebuild
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June 04, 2012, 10:34:43 »
Sorry to hear that Garry.
Would you use a local outfit for the rebuild ?
Regards
Franjo
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Franjo
1965 230SL Black/Auto/RHD
2005 Porsche Cayenne Turbo
1983 BMW 735i
1986 560 SEC
1991 500SL
1982 Holden Statesman DeVille
Garry
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Australia, Victoria, Kyneton and Brisbane Queensland
Posts: 5235
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Re: Engine Rebuild
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June 04, 2012, 10:47:26 »
Frango,
I am using a guy called Reinhard Klavers in Melbourne who looked after the Lindsay Fox collection. See
http://www.foxcollection.org.au/
before going out on his own and now only does Classic Mercedes and was recommended by John Green of MB Spared Canberra.
With all the other things I am wanting done I may not have it back until after Xmas but ready for the 50th Anniversary Bash in Canberra in March.
Garry
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Garry Marks
Melbourne/ Kyneton, Brisbane. Australia
1969 MB 280SL 5 speed RHD SOLD.
1965 MB 230SL Auto RHD Lt Blue 334G, Top 350H, Tourist Delivery.
1972 MB 280CE Auto RHD 906G
2005 MB A200
2006 MB B200
2019 Izuzu DMax 4x4 Slide-on camper.
2022 Volvo XC40 Electric
2024 Volvo EX30 Electric
Cees Klumper
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Platinum
USA, CA, Fallbrook
Posts: 5715
Re: Engine Rebuild
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June 04, 2012, 18:45:17 »
This should provide some reference on cost of the rebuild (thanks to Alfred for posting the link in another thread today):
http://mercedesengines.net/products.asp?cat=15
Full long block rebuild at Metric Motors $7,850
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Cees Klumper
1969 Mercedes 280 SL automatic
1968 Ford Mustang 302 V8
1961 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Sprint Coupe 1600
1962 FIAT 1500S OSCA convertible
1972 Lancia Fulvia Coupe 1.3
1983 Porsche 944 2.5
1990 Ford Bronco II
pj
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Gold
Canada, ON, London, Ontario
Posts: 561
1965 230SL
Re: Engine Rebuild
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June 04, 2012, 19:12:25 »
Hi Gary,
sad that it will hit your wallet but you know that you'll feel great about your engine after it's rebuilt. I remember looking at that web page from mercedesengines.net last fall when Dan (=Benz Dr.) started working on my engine. Quite an exciting process. Dan did a superb job. Here's what it looked like at one point.
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Peter J
1965 230SL #09474 named Dagny
2018 B250 4matic named Rigel
Garry
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Australia, Victoria, Kyneton and Brisbane Queensland
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Re: Engine Rebuild
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June 04, 2012, 20:32:31 »
Thanks for the info, I will point it out to my engine guy if it stat=rts to get too expensive, Its a pit I am not in the Us as there are the three who I would be happy to do it, The good Benz Dr, JA and Tom Colitt.
As I am hoping for this one to be the final keeper, then it is all relative and will be good for the next 20-30 years if I can live that long and then my wife Kate can drive it. No thats not right its her car, or so I keep saying and so must be perfect for her. More work therefor needed
Garry
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Garry Marks
Melbourne/ Kyneton, Brisbane. Australia
1969 MB 280SL 5 speed RHD SOLD.
1965 MB 230SL Auto RHD Lt Blue 334G, Top 350H, Tourist Delivery.
1972 MB 280CE Auto RHD 906G
2005 MB A200
2006 MB B200
2019 Izuzu DMax 4x4 Slide-on camper.
2022 Volvo XC40 Electric
2024 Volvo EX30 Electric
franjo_66
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Silver
Australia, NSW, Point Piper
Posts: 458
Re: Engine Rebuild
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June 04, 2012, 22:45:21 »
Hey Garry
Good to hear that you have located a very capable guy down in Victoria. The only people I know who have similar experience/capability are Autohaus Swatosch here in Sydney. They do complete frame-off and mechanical restorations of W113s. Been around for 50 odd years.
Hope you get your car sorted in time for the 50yr celebration event in Canberra !!
Best Regards
Franjo
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Franjo
1965 230SL Black/Auto/RHD
2005 Porsche Cayenne Turbo
1983 BMW 735i
1986 560 SEC
1991 500SL
1982 Holden Statesman DeVille
ja17
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Platinum
USA, OH, Blacklick
Posts: 7414
Re: Engine Rebuild
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June 04, 2012, 22:55:30 »
Hello Garry,
Depending on the mileage and wear, A top end rebuild (cylinder head rebuild) can breathe new life into the engine for many years. Measuring cylinder wear when the head is off, can determine the coarse you take.
Good luck,
Ja17
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Joe Alexander
Blacklick, Ohio
1969 Dark Olive 280SL
2002 ML55 AMG (tow vehicle)
2002 SLK32 AMG (350 hp)
1982 300TD Wagon turbo 4spd.
1963 404 Mercedes Unimog (Swedish Army)
1989 flu419 Mercedes Unimog (US Army)
1998 E430
1974 450SLC Rally
1965 220SE Finback
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