Author Topic: 250 Hesitation and Stalling  (Read 3772 times)

rgrewar

  • Guest
250 Hesitation and Stalling
« on: September 05, 2012, 04:12:32 »
We recently purchased a 250 (1970 we thought although, I have just been told through an MB Forum that 250s were only made until 1968 so we will have to investigate further) and although it runs beautifully when warmed up, it hesitates and often stalls when cold.  It also shakes a fair bit when in neutral - again, mostly when cold.
The local MB dealership mechanics have tried to figure out the problem but have thus far failed to locate the cause of the problem - I don't really think they understand this older car.  Any suggestions on what I might direct them to investigate?
Thanks for the help.
Rory

Larry & Norma

  • Full Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • United Kingdom, England, Southampton
  • Posts: 1090
Re: 250 Hesitation and Stalling
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2012, 08:11:23 »
A good place to start is to do the linkage tour as described in the tech manual on this site.
Larry Hall (Gnuface)
2023 Ioniq6
2005 C230
1970 280SL

dwahi

  • Associate Member
  • Regular
  • **
  • United Kingdom, England, London
  • Posts: 96
Re: 250 Hesitation and Stalling
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2012, 08:48:14 »
I have a similar problem, but it happens when its warm rather than cold. I have identified the issue (to be confirmed) to be that the choke is not closing and the  mix is still too rich. the plugs were slightly fouled as a result. Ill let you know once it has been back to a garage...
W113 280SL Auto 050G

Previous:
Porsche 968 Cobalt Blue (photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/67828893@N00/tags/porsche968/)
VW GTi Mk VI
VW Jetta Mk II

jameshoward

  • Associate Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • United States, New Jersey (formerly of London)
  • Posts: 1570
Re: 250 Hesitation and Stalling
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2012, 11:39:08 »
If the problem is relatively minor and is at idle, you could try playing with the idle air screw at the intake; it is for fine adjustment. May also be worth checking that the cold start valve is not leaking fuel.

The search function and wiki will throw up info on the latter.

For what it's worth, it took me about 3 attempts at the linkage tour to get the car running properly, but I then hit the sweet spot and it's been excellent ever since. It's more of an art than a science, I would suggest.
James Howard
1966 LHD 230SL

rgrewar

  • Guest
Re: 250 Hesitation and Stalling
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2012, 16:51:03 »
Thank you all for such great suggestions - I only wish the mechanics at the MB dealership here were as creative in their thinking.  I note all the responses are from UK members - heres to the Brits who are always so willing to help.
Cheers from Canada

Benz Dr.

  • Vendor
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • Canada, ON, Port Lambton
  • Posts: 7217
  • Benz Dr.
Re: 250 Hesitation and Stalling
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2012, 20:06:36 »
Sounds like the slide valve is stuck in the warm position. When this happens the engine will start but will have a low idle speed that gets better and smoother as the coolant temp rises. Once warmed the engine will run OK.
This condition, while not perfect, is considerably better than having the slide valve stuck in the cold position. The engine will run very rich and won't run well hot or cold due to fouled spark plugs.
1966 230SL 5 speed, LSD, header pipes, 300SE distributor, ported, polished and balanced, AKA  ''The Red Rocket ''
Dan Caron's SL Barn

1970  3.5 Coupe
1961  190SL
1985   300CD  Turbo Coupe
1981  300SD
2013  GMC  Sierra
1965  230SL
1967 250SL
1970 280SL
1988 560SEC

Neil Thompson

  • Full Member
  • Silver
  • ****
  • United Kingdom, England, Louth
  • Posts: 383
Re: 250 Hesitation and Stalling
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2012, 20:44:36 »
Dwahi and others, I have had success today which may help somewhat, see http://www.sl113.org/forums/index.php?topic=17098.0

Neil
1964 230 SL RHD DB304 Horizon Blue
1957 190 SL RHD DB180 Silver
1988 R107 300 SL RHD DB199 Blue Black
1978 C123 230C 2dr Auto RHD Silver