Good Topic, what other car would we like to own?

[SL113fan]

I've been pursuing a "correct" FHC for roughly 3 years. It seems that as soon as one is advertised (by private party) a buyer calls willing to pay listed price sight unseen.  I can deal with the list price part, but buying an E without first examining it is far riskier than with a Pagoda. For those unfamiliar--if you think Pagodas can have sorted pasts then try piecing together an average E-type's history.  For the rarer Aston, I've convinced myself that I'll probably have to go the dealer route when the time comes.

quote:Originally posted by Mike Hughes

DITTO!  I told my wife when I first set eyes on my Pagoda 15 years ago that I would either buy that car when it became available or a 4.2 E-type Fixed Head Coupe, if I could find a nice one first.  I searched for 14 years for the FHC of my dreams and never found it.  Then owner of my Pagoda gave me a call...

quote:Originally posted by SL113fan

Very near term:

Series 1 or 1.5 E-type FHC

Longer term:

Any DB4, DB5, or SWB DB6 Aston Martin

- Mike Hughes  -ô¿ô-
  1966 230SL Auto P/S
  Havanna Brown (408)
  Light Beige (181)
  Cream M-B Tex (121)

[rob walker]

Well once I manage to get my act in gear and find the right Pagoda to grace my gagare, its stable mate would have to be a fly yellow Ferrari Dino GTS.
Rob

Rob Walker

[graphic66]

I would like an FMC Motorcoach with a fully enclosed car hauler trailer to put my 230SL in. I think I would never come back home if only I had those two magic ingredients to go with the rig, time and money. First trip would be coast to coast stopping only to unload thE SL and explore the backroads of America. Grand Canyon here I come!

[JamesL]

Oh dear, this is a tough one as the list is LONG....

Citroen SM
Citroen Light 15 (Traction Avant)
Morris Mini Mk1 (sliding windows, external hinges and all)
Porsche 911T - anything before the intro of the Whaletail spoiler
Porsche 911 (993)
1965 Mustang Convertible
Lotus Elise
Aston DB7 Convertible
Beacham Jaguar MarkII
Chevvy or Ford Truck (circa 1950)
A Harley

and

A 246 Dino

There's a few more modern items...like a DB9, New SL55, the new Bentley GT


Can you tell we don't have kids?


edit - oops, forgot the 240Z

[Ben]

Okay I'll take a deep breath ...........

300SL Roadster
280SE 3.5 Convertible
600 Grosser Landaulet
600 SWB
300SEL 6.3
450SEL 6.9
E55 AMG
SL55 AMG
CLK55 AMG Cabriolet
911.....last of the Air Cooled Turbos
356 Speedster
'65 Mustang Convertible 289
'67 Fastback Mustang
'59 Cadillac Fleetwood Convertible
Plymouth Hemi 'cuda
Miura SV
250GT swb California Spyder

........how long can this list be   I've another 10 pages !!

Regards,
Ben in Ireland.
'64 230SL 4sp.
'03 CLK Kompressor

[mdsalemi]

My list of desirable classic cars is probably more eclectic then most:

Not in any order--

Any 1930's American Austin Convertible
1973 Maserati Merak in light metallic blue
1960 MGA, bright Red, as driven by Elvis in "Blue Hawaii".  It would be desirable if it were the "Twin Cam" version, and include a mechanic with all the camshaft shims so he could adjust the camshaft on a weekly basis...
1967 Austin Cooper S rally prepared with 1 1/2" SU Carbs, SCCR gearbox, Paddy Hopkirk accelerator, fender flares, 70 series tires, ported and polished engine, forged rockers, and a Union Jack on the roof.
1966 Gogomobil Cabriolet.  Rare, but I've seen one parked on the street in Germany many years ago.
Any late 1950's or early 1960's Mercedes Cabriolet
1940 Cadillac Convertible Coupe on Fleetwood wheelbase, 141".  Yeah, baby--6000 pounds of American Iron in a 2-seater!
1967 Sunbeam Tiger Mark IIa with the Ford 289 engine.  Of course the 289 would have to be "prepared" and the Tiger's suspension matched appropriately.
Rally prepared 1968 Datsun 510
Toyota 2000GT
mid-1960's Rolls Royce Limo

OK I've just run out of garage space...


Michael Salemi
1969 280SL
Signal Red w/Black Leather
Restored

[n/a]

Well thanks guys, your posts are fantastic keep them comming.
The list of the ones I would love but won't be able to afford
even if I won the lotto, are;
My dads jaguar C-type no:050 which he raced in the fifties, his Ferrari 750 monza spyder now worth 1.5 million, alta GP3 F1 car
racing years 50,51 Aston Martin Db5 and his pontoon which he loved
and I never got to see as I hadn't been born yet. Also I might want
dads Lamborghini Miura what a car.

Pagoda Red

red kelly

[kns]

Shame on you all! Not an XK or Blower Bentley amongst the lot of you!
 
Cheers,

kns.
1965 230SL, Manual
[1965 220SEb Coupe, Man.]

[gwuisman]

This is my favorite. Just a dream as these cars are in a price range of a 300sl.

Gerard Wuisman.
1970 280sl



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[n/a]

Kns What do you mean not an xk or blower amongst the lot of us, jag c-type is an xk it's an xkc050
Pagoda Red

red kelly

[n/a]

anymore for anymore?

red kelly

[n/a]

1. Ferrari Daytona Coupe
2. Ferrari Daytona Spyder
3. 300SL Roadster, 1960
4. Maybach 62
5. 300SEL 6.3
6. 280SL 3.5 conversion
7. Any V12 Packard
I'll stop there for now

tom in CA
2003 C320 Coupe

[Malc]

A Group A stage rally Lancia Delta Integrale that isn't falling to bits.....like mine
Malc

[German Dude]

A Citroen DS Station Wagon.

Aside: The Citroenians in Germany are just as crazy about their cars as the Pagoda people on this forum. As a member of the Andre-Citroen-Club, I know what I am talking about. Both pages are extremely entertaining - and extremely informative.



Juergen
64 230SL #2933, 4sp, signal red, white hard top
93 Citroen XM station wagon

[n/a]

Porsche 911 Carrera or SC
Porsche 993 C2S
Mercedes 300SL Roadster
Ferrari 246 "Dino"
1966 Shelby 350 (Mustang)
1969 Mustang Mach 1
1970 Chevelle SS
1969 Camaro SS
Porsche 914-6
BMW 3.0CS
BWM 2002tii

[Joe]

This may say something about me, but I am strongly attracted to the Citroen 2CV, and would love to have one.
Joe

[Malc]

quote:Originally posted by Joe

This may say something about me, but I am strongly attracted to the Citroen 2CV, and would love to have one.
Joe

Joe,
I believe that US citizens are allowed a one time personal import... If you want a 2CV you had better be quick as they are fast disappearing, being raced (you should see it!!) and kept as values go up
A 2CV was my very first car with a 425cc engine and 0 - 50mph just before boredom set in, and there was a following wind[:p]

Cheers
Malc

[hauser]

Joe & Malc please correct me if I am wrong on this.  Isn't the Citroen 2CV a very difficult car to roll over?  I vaguely remember something about this when I was living (3 years)in Europe.

1969 280sl 5 spd        1999 ML320          Gainesville,Fl.

[Cees Klumper]

The 2CV IS very hard to roll over. I know because me and a couple of friends once tried to (this was when we were under age 20). It has a cloth roof so what three of us did was stand up inside the car (everyone was about 6'2"") and have the driver make very sharp turns from left to right, adding to the considerable body roll by leaning over in the same direction as the car was turning. I think we hovered over the sidewalk alternatingly left and right, rather than the road. Still, the wheels stayed on the ground at all time and it just would not roll over.
Thinking about this now, we must have felt very confident about this feature of the car because we sure could have had a serious accident!
Then one day the front suspension got very damaged because one front tire had hit a curb hard. Two of us just bare-handedly bent the whole structure back into the right specs (well, close enough anyway).
These are pretty special cars - we still see them on the roads here in Holland today.

Cees Klumper in Amsterdam
'69 white 280 SL automatic

[hauser]

Rumor was if you could roll one the factory would give you a new one or something like that.  I don't really know if this was true or not.  

One weird thing was how the stick shift would work, sliding in and out of the dashboard.  Something like push in turning to the right was first.  Pull straight out was second.  Don't remember this was about 23 years ago.

1969 280sl 5 spd        1999 ML320          Gainesville,Fl.

[hauser]

BTW In addition to the 300sl roadster I wouldn't mind have a 300sl Ostermeyer roadster.

Anton "Tony" Ostermeyer was building replica Gullwings and 300sl Roadsters in California.  His creations were so good that many of his reproduction parts were sold to M.B. for use in restorations.  Many owners were also buying his parts to repair and to replace items that were no longer in available.  His parts business alone was bringing in hefty numbers monthly.  His cars in some ways were better than the originals.  An example of this would be the modern MB suspensions he installed.  Modern MB engines and drivetrains. A/C systems and even automatic transmissions.   Much of the bright work was reproduced in Poland.  Light lenses in Tailand.

Tony started out with Gullwings.  He took his personal car apart and from this he made molds.  The new panels were constructed of fiberglass coated with aviation grade aluminum.  Once the Gullwings were underway then he started building Roadsters.

Tony sold his SL business to a former Rolls Royce executive.  I believe 3 containers were shipped to the UK once unloaded Tony made the trip to help set up.  

Tony is now retired having suffered a heart attack. Now his hobby is with airplanes.

For those intrested in seeing a 300sl Ostermeyer reproduction go to www.californiaclassix.com  Once you enter the site go to the Hall of Fame, scroll down and look for the last one built.

1969 280sl 5 spd        1999 ML320          Gainesville,Fl.

[Malc]

quote:Originally posted by hauser

Rumor was if you could roll one the factory would give you a new one or something like that.  I don't really know if this was true or not.  

One weird thing was how the stick shift would work, sliding in and out of the dashboard.  Something like push in turning to the right was first.  Pull straight out was second.  Don't remember this was about 23 years ago.

1969 280sl 5 spd        1999 ML320          Gainesville,Fl.

Hauser
I don't think the rumour was true, just another urban myth I think. Your right about the gear shift out of the dash. The gearbox is behind the engine and has a "stick" which attaches to the lever. The pattern changed towards the end but pretty funky and actually made sense ina sort of Gallic way  

They are very difficult to roll, I never managed it and if you watch the antics of the racing 2CVs you wonder how they don't do it either.
Interestingly Renault made a Renault 4 (one of the worlds first 5-door hatch backs) which also used the gear lever through the dash and rolled all over the place but stuck to the road. I should know I used to "race" my mum's all over the place when I was young and foolish
Now I am just older

The 2CV has a big following in the UK because they are so much fun, as long as your not in a hurry, and spare supplies are not bad. You can even get a galvanised chassis now as that is the major rot spot on them.
Cheers
Malc

[Ricardo]

Hey Malc
I too had a Renault 4 that I purchased from the first owner. The car had 13,000 miles on it and the floors were completely gone.(Canadian winters/salt) When I had cut out the rust there was an empty hole from siderail to siderail. The body was perfect and after repairs, we drove it for 4 years. Still have the engine in my barn with 30 k miles on it. It was a wonderful car.
Ricardo

[Malc]

quote:Originally posted by Ricardo

Hey Malc
I too had a Renault 4 that I purchased from the first owner. The car had 13,000 miles on it and the floors were completely gone.(Canadian winters/salt) When I had cut out the rust there was an empty hole from siderail to siderail. The body was perfect and after repairs, we drove it for 4 years. Still have the engine in my barn with 30 k miles on it. It was a wonderful car.
Ricardo

Ha!
My brother still has one, 1986 I think, plus a barn full of bits. Never knew they made it as far as Canada. Parts are pretty hard to find now,(uk) but early renault 5 (Le car) running gear fits, The french Post Office were still buying them new until recently.
Sounds like an excuse for a hoilday in France!

If you have the engine, did the rest dissolve?
Cheers
Malc

[Ricardo]

Malc
Can't remember exactly why we stopped driving it, I think it got hard to start which  I think turned out to be the coil. I always had this worry that if you got in a collision with a even a dog, you'd lose... my son and his buddies drove the poor bugger into the ground, ripping around the farm. Then he stripped out the suspension and drivetrain to "build" something that never happened and I finally prevailed upon him to dispose of the bits laying around, just last year. The motor seemed worth saving, but I'll never do anything with it. These cars weren't really available in Canada, I think the PO ordered it specially and it just seemed too light to do battle with all the American iron. I ended up with several Renault 12's wagons after that, and these were imported and serviced here, through Renault dealers in Quebec. The 4's were nowhere near as much fun as mini's I owned though
Ricardo