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ginore79

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Engine Numbers - Month / Year Produced
« on: August 14, 2014, 18:56:45 »
Hi Forum

I have just acquired a 1965 Mercedes Pagoda W113 230SL.

I have however now discovered that at some point in its life, it has had an engine upgrade to a 280SL engine (130-983).

I'm trying to determine the year of manufacture for the 130-983 engine so I can get a new exhaust - I'm struggling to locate a resource on the internet which details a history of when engine numbers were produced.

Do you know of any such resource?

Many thanks in advance

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Re: Engine Numbers - Month / Year Produced
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2014, 21:04:36 »
I don't think what you're looking for exists; or at least not available to the public.

One way to narrow things down, since you don't need an exact date, is to look through the registry:
http://www.sl113.org/wiki/Registry/Start
Some entries have engine numbers and corresponding VIN. If you find one close to your engine number, you can consult the technical manual at
http://www.sl113.org/wiki/DataCard/USModelYear
for when it's corresponding VIN was produced.
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Re: Engine Numbers - Month / Year Produced
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2014, 21:47:59 »
Ginore,

No, there is clearly not a registry for engine numbers from our Pagodas (or other contemporary MB cars). :P
Hard to find out from when exactly your particular engine was.

A small hint:

a) look up in the Engelen book (our Pagoda bible)
b) 23885 280 SLs were built (the only MB cars with the 130.983 engine). Among these two thirds were cars with automatic transmission (with a -12- or -22- in their corresponding engine number and the other third being stick shifts (with a -10- or - 20- in the center of their engine number).

Now,
all manual engines or automatic engines were numbered separately. That counts up to roughly 16,000 auto engines (-12-, -22-) which were built and about 8,000 engines for stick shift.

So, what's your serial number of the engine?
Roughly calculated, if your auto engine (130.983-12-0xxxxx) had a serial no. of about 6000-7000, the correponding car's serial were roughly about 010000.
This is only a very rough match, a closer one could only be obtained with the help of the databases of changes in the "Engelen" or - if you had the data card of the car where the engine was taken off (which in utmost cases you naturally do not have).

As to the exhaust, don't worry.
All 280 engines (all 250 engines and the late 230 engines) had or have the short casted exhaust headers and the exhaust down the headers is exactly identical on all these later Pagodas.

So, go out hunting for a new exhaust system!

Good luck!

Achim
(early exhaust headers)
Achim
(Germany)

ginore79

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Re: Engine Numbers - Month / Year Produced
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2014, 10:11:42 »
Hi - Thanks for the help!

The engine number is 130.982 22 006421.

The car is a 230SL year 1965 - with automatic transmission and is RHD. So this does match up with the engine number elements  :)

I have been through the registry and it appears this would make it a 1969 engine build - does that sound about right?

Thanks again in advance!


ginore79

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Re: Engine Numbers - Month / Year Produced
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2014, 10:19:58 »
Sorry the engine number is 130.983 22 006421

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Re: Engine Numbers - Month / Year Produced
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2014, 08:50:09 »
While this website doesn't have a separate list of engine numbers, the Registry in the Technical Manual has engine numbers for most of the over 500 cards in the Registry.

The numbers can be sorted, if that helps, by clicking the top of the Engine Number column.

Finding some numbers near yours, may help confirm the age of the engine.

Not sure if a series of replacement engines were made and kept in inventory.
These may have been given a different set of numbers or perhaps no number
expecting a number to be added by the installer of the replacement engine.

Richard M, NYC
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May be seen at www.panix.com/~rmadison/mercedes.shtml
« Last Edit: August 16, 2014, 09:00:35 by 280SL71 »
1969 280 SL, Tunis Beige, Euro Model (Italy).

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Re: Engine Numbers - Month / Year Produced
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2014, 09:29:26 »
If you give me the reg number (by PM if you prefer) I can check my records to see if it's a car that I know anything about.