Author Topic: Done maintenance of air & heater controls  (Read 7229 times)

Jowe

  • Full Member
  • Silver
  • ****
  • Sweden, Västra Götaland, Gothenburg
  • Posts: 279
Done maintenance of air & heater controls
« on: March 01, 2015, 19:08:16 »
As many of you have experienced, the air & heater control levers can be hard to adjust after may years of neglected service. Our Technical Manual has a very good description on how to disassemble and lube the air & heater control system. So did I. When I disassembled the control unit, the aluminium frame holding the levers cracked apart. Obviously, the frame had become vulnerable after many years (see first picture). I tired to put it together with epoxy, but it didn't last when mounting back in the car. My only chance to solve the disaster was to find a new(er) frame. I checked with the well known vendors of W113 parts but none of them sold the frame separately, only complete units with levers. My levers are in good condition and not needed to be exchanged so I turned to eBay instead. Luckily, i won a complete unit with cracked levers but the frame in good condition, at a reasonable cost. I switched over my controls on the new frame and mounted it perfectly in the car.

Lubing the control wires made everything moving easily, except the air distributor flap, which still was stuck. So I removed the air distributor box and found that the flap was stuck in the corners. Maybe the plastics has expanded somewhat since new. The mitigation was to grind off the corners and edges of the flap with a fine rasp. Eventually, the flap moved freely. Finally, this maintenance project was done  :)
Johan
04/1964 230SL, European, manual 4-sp, power steering, 050/050 white, black leather, Blaupunkt (SOLD)

Jonny B

  • Pagoda SL Board
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • USA, CA, San Marcos
  • Posts: 4190
Re: Done maintenance of air & heater controls
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2015, 16:42:31 »
Wow! I don't think I have ever seen any kind of failure like this one. eBay indeed can be your friend.
Jonny B
1967 250 SL Auto, DB 568
1970 280 SL Auto, DB 904
1966 Morris Mini Minor

batman

  • Guest
Re: Done maintenance of air & heater controls
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2015, 06:33:43 »
Johan,

when  you say..."Lubing the control wires made everything moving easily"...what sort of lubrication did you use on the cables?

cheers

Jowe

  • Full Member
  • Silver
  • ****
  • Sweden, Västra Götaland, Gothenburg
  • Posts: 279
Re: Done maintenance of air & heater controls
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2015, 07:21:45 »
Mark,

I used WD-40 and sprayed into the cables.
Johan
04/1964 230SL, European, manual 4-sp, power steering, 050/050 white, black leather, Blaupunkt (SOLD)

Jack Jones

  • Full Member
  • Silver
  • ****
  • Canada, ON, Milton
  • Posts: 396
Re: Done maintenance of air & heater controls
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2015, 00:30:50 »
Remove one of the cable ends from the control and install a piece of vacuum tubing over the end. Now insert the straw from a can of silicone spray over the other end of the vacuum hose making sure a tight fit and force the silicone into the cable. The results if dome correctly will move more freely then ever before.
Jack Jones                                                                                                   
1970 280SL 4 Speed
1984 280SL 5 Speed

ja17

  • Full Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • USA, OH, Blacklick
  • Posts: 7407
Re: Done maintenance of air & heater controls
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2015, 00:39:48 »
I never saw a plastic frame, always metal in my world.
Joe Alexander
Blacklick, Ohio
1969 Dark Olive 280SL
2002 ML55 AMG (tow vehicle)
2002 SLK32 AMG (350 hp)
1982 300TD Wagon turbo 4spd.
1963 404 Mercedes Unimog (Swedish Army)
1989 flu419 Mercedes Unimog (US Army)
1998 E430
1974 450SLC Rally
1965 220SE Finback

batman

  • Guest
Re: Done maintenance of air & heater controls
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2015, 02:34:53 »
Jack -

Do you mean attaching an actual vacum cleaner and turning it on to suck the lub through?

Jack Jones

  • Full Member
  • Silver
  • ****
  • Canada, ON, Milton
  • Posts: 396
Re: Done maintenance of air & heater controls
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2015, 02:51:11 »
Hi Mark,

I am referring to a piece of automotive vacuum hose than can be forced over the end of the outer casing of your heater control cables. Then use an aerosol can of silicone with a straw that will insert into the spray nozzle on the can and fit it into the open end of the vacuum hose. You want a tight connection so when you spray the silicone into the hose it is forced into the control cables between the wire and the outer plastic housing. 
Jack Jones                                                                                                   
1970 280SL 4 Speed
1984 280SL 5 Speed

batman

  • Guest
Re: Done maintenance of air & heater controls
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2015, 10:44:35 »
Thanks Jack.

I am replacing all my levers in the coming months and creating a list of other things I should do at same time.

cheers

wwheeler

  • Vendor
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • USA, TX, Dallas
  • Posts: 2893
Re: Done maintenance of air & heater controls
« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2015, 12:47:08 »
I lubed all of my W111 cables including the hood release with this. Works incredibly well and these are available at most motorcycle shops. Not expensive either. You do have to put a rag on the other end because lube will come out.

http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/4838/i/motion-pro-cable-luber
Wallace
Texas
'68 280SE W111 coupe
'60 220SE W128 coupe
'70 Plymouth Roadrunner 440+6

66andBlue

  • Full Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • USA, CA, Solana Beach
  • Posts: 4733
Re: Done maintenance of air & heater controls
« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2015, 17:42:50 »
Hi Wallace,
nice gadget. Looks like having two screws to tighten the sleeve around the cable helps to push the cleaning/lubricating fluid down.
I have tried an earlier version that Michael S. advocated some time ago but sometimes the fluid leaked around the sleeve and would not go down the cable:
http://www.sl113.org/forums/index.php?topic=3345.msg19620#msg19620
Alfred
1964 230SL manual 4-speed 568H signal red
1966 230SL automatic 334G light blue (sold)
1968 280SL automatic (now 904G midnight blue)

wwheeler

  • Vendor
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • USA, TX, Dallas
  • Posts: 2893
Re: Done maintenance of air & heater controls
« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2015, 18:28:26 »
That is a similar device and maybe having the two screws is the secret or possibly a better rubber seal. The outer cable sleeve is a critical part. If is too big or small, it will leak. But the Mercedes heater cables should be in the size range that this device will work on. Worked before and I have my dash apart for a wood refurbish and I am going to do it again very soon. With a good seal, you will for sure be able to push the lube ALL the way through. So have the rags handy at the other end. Kind of fun too see the dirty old stuff come out.

I personally wouldn't use WD-40 as it is a so-so long term lubricant. A good penetrant and cleaner, but the lubricity goes away pretty soon. There are far better cable lubes in a spray. As hard as it is to do this process, do it right the first time.
Wallace
Texas
'68 280SE W111 coupe
'60 220SE W128 coupe
'70 Plymouth Roadrunner 440+6