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neelyrc

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Re: 280SL 1970 Australian Delivery - Data Card
« Reply #25 on: March 28, 2017, 02:13:35 »
Thanks for the update, Surfer.  If I uncover anything I will post.
Ralph

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Re: 280SL 1970 Australian Delivery - Data Card
« Reply #26 on: March 28, 2017, 04:11:05 »
Hi PIP1947,

Unless you are going for a full restoration I would probably leave the chrome "as is" on Goldie. I think that replacing it will likely make it stand out against the natural patina of the rest of the vehicle and once you start ...... !

The engine will be removed by Cummins Classic as they have worked on a number of my cars in the past and they do an excellent job. The interior will likely be carried out by Car Interior Plus Pty Ltd as they have experience with Mercedes restorations. There is apparently a slight difference with the seats on the later Pagoda's in that the pleating was "pinched" - I have attached a photo. Once the engine is out the rolling body will probably go to a specialist in Taree for a strip and paint.

You have my attention on the 71 280 SE 3.5 - send photos please. I have also been looking around for one for a while now and narrowly missed out on a coupe around three weeks ago. It was the green 111 026 22 001635 in the link below. You might be interested in the following registry for Australian 280SE 3.5 Coupes & Cabriolets

https://www.mbspares.com.au/Registry/Mercedes-Benz-RHD-280SE-35-Coupe-and-Cabriolet-Registry.aspx

All the Best - Surfer

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Re: 280SL 1970 Australian Delivery - Data Card
« Reply #27 on: March 28, 2017, 07:29:59 »
Jonny B & Ralph,

Sorry I also forgot to mention that the Classic Centre in Stuttgart also commented on the large "1, 2 & 3's" found on the data card. they simply said that 1 was the original card and 2/3 were copies.

Surfer

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Re: 280SL 1970 Australian Delivery - Data Card
« Reply #28 on: March 28, 2017, 13:55:06 »
Hi Surfer,

I was about to guess that the large numbers related to issues / copies. My friend recently had me decipher his 250CE datacard. The original hard copy he had in his files was number '2' and the copy we sourced from the MB Classic Centre was numbered '3'.

Interestingly, only the datacard '3' had the car's manufacture date stamped on it?

Regards,

Rob
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Re: 280SL 1970 Australian Delivery - Data Card
« Reply #29 on: April 06, 2017, 05:23:06 »
Ralph, Jonny B, Gary, Rob & DM, thanks again for all your advice. I managed to take up contact with Tom Hansen and he has been very helpful in sorting my issue with the data card (thanks Gary). I will now send a PM with the complete card to DM.

Since my last correspondence I have spoken with several more Mercedes and Tyre dealers on the subject of the additional letters in Box 19. I regret none have been able to provide a definitive answer although the majority agreed that it was likely information related to the type of tyres that were delivered with the vehicle. Rather than speed rating one suggested that given these vehicles were destined for different world markets that it might be related to the climate and typical road conditions of where the vehicle was destined.

As to the large “1”, “2” & “3” printed on the data cards. Again not many of the dealers or the people I contacted at the Classic Centre in Stuttgart seem to have a lot of knowledge on this subject. An older specialist I came across seems to recall that all vehicles from this period should have been delivered to the customer with at least two (2) Data cards. One card marked “1” which was the original, contained the key codes and description of the codes printed on the back. The “1” card was to be removed from the vehicle/log books and kept in a secure place (at home) by the customer.  As Ralph suggested “2” & “3” were copies and typically did not have information on the reverse nor key codes. The “2” copy was typically kept with the manuals etc., in the vehicle. The specialist thought that the “3” data card was scanned and stored on microfiche at Mercedes and the card itself may or may not have been retained by the dealer network. He said that during the production of the 230SL, 250SL & 280SL the format of the data card changed quite a bit (as outlined in the Technical Manual) and that dealers may not have always followed the correct procedures with respect to cards.

As to the red/pink cards that Ralph has he did not know but suggested that he may have been provided with these additional cards as he collected the vehicle directly from the factory rather than via a dealer.

I would be very happy to hear from anyone who can verify any of the above. Thanks Surfer.



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Re: 280SL 1970 Australian Delivery - Data Card
« Reply #30 on: April 06, 2017, 22:13:16 »
Surfer, thanks for the update. 

Based on the discussion here and my somewhat foggy memory I feel sure that I once had a card without key numbers which would have been a number "2."  I am searching my files.  Might have left it in one of my shop manuals!  If I turn it up I will post.

Thanks again for your update.
Ralph

1969 280SL, 4 Speed Manual, Dark Olive (291H), Parchment Leather (256), Dark Green Soft Top (747)
1972 Mercedes-Benz 280SEL 4.5
1988 Mercedes-Benz 560SL
2007 BMW 328xi (E90)
Italy
2004 Toyota HiLux D4D Pickup
2008 BMW 330xd Futura Coupe' (E92)