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Thermostat replacement - hints and tips
« on: April 01, 2020, 17:32:45 »
My car has purring like a kitten since I got it about 6 months ago. But on my last outing I noticed that the temp gauge was running under the usual 180 degree level. Looks like time for a new thermostat.
After reviewing the Tech Manual and searching "thermostat" on the Forum, I wasn't able to find a tip on how to remove just enough coolant to remove the thermostat. Any recommendations? Use a turkey baster? Do I really need to drain all the coolant? Best location to drain it rather than the risks I've read about from using the drain plug at the bottom of the radiator?
I also remember reading a post about the procedure after new thermostat install to add only part of the coolant until after warmup, and steam comes out of the radiator, to "burp" the system, then adding the rest, but I can't find that post now!
Thanks in advance.
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Re: Thermostat replacement - hints and tips
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2020, 02:54:41 »
One way to drain coolant is by loosening the lower radiator hose. I would just drain 'plenty' as you have to refill anyway.
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Re: Thermostat replacement - hints and tips
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2020, 13:57:31 »
Gary ,a few tips that may help,yes just drain from your bottom radiator tap about
2-3 pints,then to remove thermostat housing ,probably have to remove about 3-4 bolts that support
fuel injection lines that cover  2 of the thermostat bolts.Then start by removing the 4 bolts on housing,
but be very careful  when loosening these,as they are steel bolts into alloy housing,and they can corrode
inside and can snap or break ,so when removing loosen  a little at a time and if the bolt starts to tighten while backing out stop,
squit with pb blaster etc,wait a while,then turn back in a little then out ,etc,etc,until its all way out.
When 4 bolts are out, tap top housing with plastic hammer until free,then clean all surfaces up,fit new thermostat and  oring,
Mercedes thermostats have a small ball valve on one side,that should be position at highest point, if your thermostat sits at slight  angle.When  finished bolting all down,and when you are ready to connect top hose to housing,poor as much coolant down
into the top hose into radiator at an angle until its starts running back out, then connect hose to housing and tighten all down.
Use the same coolant as you have always used, make sure your radiator tank is a little over half full and then go and turn your heater
controls on to hot.You are now ready to start and run your car. Only drive about 1/2 mile close to home,watch your temp gauge,
return to home ,watch your temp gauge,by then your thermostat should have opened,and it will purg its self, when you park back
at home, then check level in tank after it cools about 1 hour, do this couple of times until tank is at correct  level.
It is important  that the correct operating temp is reached  as  this also affects the fuel injection operations of the engine
a stuck open thermostat, the engine takes for ever to reach operating temp ,plus is a sign that it could be running cold.regards.


 


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Re: Thermostat replacement - hints and tips
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2020, 15:18:43 »
Thanks, Cees.

Wayne, awesome write up and huge help! Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you!
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Re: Thermostat replacement - hints and tips
« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2020, 17:15:15 »
Thanks again to Wayne's guidance the thermostat replacement was a breeze. Removed minimal amount of coolant, still beautiful clear blue MB - had cooling system completely flushed about 6 months ago - then replaced the thermostat in about 30 minutes. Thanks, Wayne!
Drove about 1/2 mile including pausing on an incline for a few minutes to burp the air out with the radiator fill cap loosened, but after my drive the temp hasn't moved - still at the bottom of the scale on the gauge. Heater levers wide open and heat coming into the cabin. It's about 60 degrees F out - did I not run it long enough?
I'm hoping that's the case, otherwise envisioning this opening another chapter - replacing/repairing the sending unit - which leads to disassembly of the instrument panel and subsequent light bulb replacement, etc, etc...
How do I know when the temp is hot enough to register on the gauge?
Thanks
Gary
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Re: Thermostat replacement - hints and tips
« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2020, 21:04:55 »
If you have noticeable heat from the ventilation system then the engine is up to temperature.  Sounds like the ether gas charge has leaked out of the capillary tube for the temperature gauge.  Even if there were no thermostat in the engine or one that was stuck open the temperature gauge would come up about halfway.  To further confirm this you can point an infrared thermometer at the thermostat housing on an already warm engine and you should see a normal operating temperature. 

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Re: Thermostat replacement - hints and tips
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2020, 18:58:09 »
Thanks, Aaron. Do I need to drain any coolant before removing the sensor from the engine?

Well it's off to Palo Alto Speedometer we go - along with diving into the whole instrument cluster removal, gasket replacement, interior instrument glass cleaning, and LED change-out that's been waiting for an excuse to do.

Happy Easter, all!
Gary
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Re: Thermostat replacement - hints and tips
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2020, 01:40:09 »
Yes, you'll have to drain enough coolant to where the level is below the capillary tube screw connection in the head.  If you don't it'll just leak out of the hole where the capillary tube screws into and make a bloody mess.  Usually, draining the radiator alone will suffice. 

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Re: Thermostat replacement - hints and tips
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2020, 02:48:06 »
Thanks, Aaron!
Gary
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