Author Topic: Errant tachometer  (Read 2498 times)

FGN59

  • Inactive
  • Silver
  • ****
  • France, Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur, Marseille
  • Posts: 263
Errant tachometer
« on: July 07, 2020, 12:55:29 »
Hi all,

I’ve recently established that the tachometer in my late 1968 280SL (manual gearbox) is off, by roughly 25%. It exaggerates the actual revs of the engine by 25%: if the engine is working at 800rpms, the tacho will display 1.000, if the engine is at 2.000 rpms it will display 2.500 rpms.

Does anyone know if there is an obvious fix for this, like a missing or wrong or superfluous gear in the linkage between the engine and the tachometer?
François

1994 Toyota Land Cruiser SW HDJ80 4.2L diesel
sold:
1969 280SL US specs, 4-speed manual, beige-grey (726H), parchment leather
1962 Jaguar MK2 3.8L (4.2L XJ6 engine), black, tan leather interior
1968 Peugeot 204 roadster, white, black interior
1955 Massey Ferguson TEF20 diesel tractor 😁

ja17

  • Full Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • USA, OH, Blacklick
  • Posts: 7414
Re: Errant tachometer
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2020, 14:04:53 »
It would have to be a problem with the instrument itself. Everything else is fairly direct.
Joe Alexander
Blacklick, Ohio
1969 Dark Olive 280SL
2002 ML55 AMG (tow vehicle)
2002 SLK32 AMG (350 hp)
1982 300TD Wagon turbo 4spd.
1963 404 Mercedes Unimog (Swedish Army)
1989 flu419 Mercedes Unimog (US Army)
1998 E430
1974 450SLC Rally
1965 220SE Finback

WRe

  • Full Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • Germany, Hessen, Seeheim-Jugenheim
  • Posts: 1454
Re: Errant tachometer
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2020, 14:38:39 »
Hi,
I second Joe's guess and would open the tacho, disassemble, clean and grease/lubricate it or ask Ingo Spenner from Pagodentreff.de.
...WRe

FGN59

  • Inactive
  • Silver
  • ****
  • France, Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur, Marseille
  • Posts: 263
Re: Errant tachometer
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2020, 15:06:43 »
Thank you both. I will follow your suggestions and let you know what transpires.
François

1994 Toyota Land Cruiser SW HDJ80 4.2L diesel
sold:
1969 280SL US specs, 4-speed manual, beige-grey (726H), parchment leather
1962 Jaguar MK2 3.8L (4.2L XJ6 engine), black, tan leather interior
1968 Peugeot 204 roadster, white, black interior
1955 Massey Ferguson TEF20 diesel tractor 😁

Pawel66

  • Full Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • Poland, Mazowieckie, Konstancin-Jeziorna
  • Posts: 5494
Re: Errant tachometer
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2020, 15:14:17 »
Maybe just the hair spring is weak or lose...
Pawel

280SL 1970 automatic 180G Silver
W128 220SE
W121 190SL
G-class

FGN59

  • Inactive
  • Silver
  • ****
  • France, Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur, Marseille
  • Posts: 263
Re: Errant tachometer
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2020, 18:10:33 »
Are you trying to take advantage of the weak spot I have developed recently and make fun of me? What is this hair spring thing?   ???
« Last Edit: July 07, 2020, 18:15:17 by FGN59 »
François

1994 Toyota Land Cruiser SW HDJ80 4.2L diesel
sold:
1969 280SL US specs, 4-speed manual, beige-grey (726H), parchment leather
1962 Jaguar MK2 3.8L (4.2L XJ6 engine), black, tan leather interior
1968 Peugeot 204 roadster, white, black interior
1955 Massey Ferguson TEF20 diesel tractor 😁

Pawel66

  • Full Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • Poland, Mazowieckie, Konstancin-Jeziorna
  • Posts: 5494
Re: Errant tachometer
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2020, 18:15:48 »
 :) :)
Probably I used the wrong term. I meant the spiral like spring that I think (not sure) may be there inside. It creates resistance for the hand axle and also is responsible for return of the hand back to peg.

I speculate 100%. This spring may not even be there. I know in general mechanical speedos and tachos are often made this way.
Pawel

280SL 1970 automatic 180G Silver
W128 220SE
W121 190SL
G-class

FGN59

  • Inactive
  • Silver
  • ****
  • France, Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur, Marseille
  • Posts: 263
Re: Errant tachometer
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2020, 19:57:57 »
Ok, thanks for the explanation, I think I understand what you mean / describe.

What puzzles me is the apparently constant ’overclocking’ proportion of 25% (about), which doesn’t seem to come from a weak, or random, or loose mechanism, but more like a wrong gear or electrical resistance or winding generating a constant effect. I think I’ll try to contact Ingo Spenner or try to find out how the tachometer works before doing anything.
François

1994 Toyota Land Cruiser SW HDJ80 4.2L diesel
sold:
1969 280SL US specs, 4-speed manual, beige-grey (726H), parchment leather
1962 Jaguar MK2 3.8L (4.2L XJ6 engine), black, tan leather interior
1968 Peugeot 204 roadster, white, black interior
1955 Massey Ferguson TEF20 diesel tractor 😁

Pawel66

  • Full Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • Poland, Mazowieckie, Konstancin-Jeziorna
  • Posts: 5494
Re: Errant tachometer
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2020, 20:26:15 »
I think you might have received a good advise to open it and clean up and see what happens.

Personally - I would just send it to a specialist. Opening it and cleaning up may or may not help. To check it, you need to re-install it - lots of work, risk of scratches of dash, etc. I do not know what are the odds of fixing it by cleaning it up, not sure if it would be worth it. Not to mention you can break it more....

I had the speedo stuck at 120km/h (looked funny in the garage) and the tacho squeeking. Took them both to a specialist, not wanting to risk more damage or double work.
Pawel

280SL 1970 automatic 180G Silver
W128 220SE
W121 190SL
G-class