My data card deciphered ?

[pagoda113]

K so I have spent some time deciphering my data card which I have posted. Would like your input on anything I have missed or got wrong.

Now in the box spelt HINWEIS I have no.1 in there. I am coming up with more unusual things ordered ? SUCH AS ?

Now on invoice it has ski bar holders, black cocomats which are not showing on data card, Could it be these items or something else ?
Also when car was ordered it was requested that spare tyre cover was made in same material as carpet. It was ordered with Ariel installed on rear left wing. This was in hand written instructions which I have. Would any of above apply to the HINWEIS BOX ?
My next question. What is a tropical battery ? Does anyone have picture of what one would look like on our cars at time.

Look forward to your replies
Thanks

[lreppond]

Wow that was a very well equipped 230!   It must have gone to either Florida or maybe even Panama with a tropical battery.  These were special batteries made to last in high humidity and heat. 
I think the coco mats and ski bars were dealer added and therefore not reflected on the data card.  I would image the carpet covered spare and left rear mounted antenna might be what’s indicated in the HINWEIS box since both of those things would have been done at factory. 

[Garry]

The Left rear wing aerial was common on cars delivered to Australia, mine, a tourist delivery has it and i have seen plenty here with the same mounting position. I don’t think coco mats were ever an option and were an after market item.
Some other options are really nice like luggage and racks..

[Pawel66]

There are undershields and ZF 5 speed transmission, luggage, luggage rack - all very rare options.
I would vote for spare wheel cover for Hinweiss. I is something factory would do. As antenna was not amongst options, the owner could order it with the dealer, who might just ask where it should be (both front and rear were available).

But there might have been something else, that is not even mentioned, related to suspension or engine.

[zak]

Yes, lots of cool options. 5 spd is the coolest. The HD Heat exchanger, tropical battery, under shields make me think it is a hot weather car.
The luggage and roof rack are special too. I have not seen too many US models with this array of options.
Good stuff.

jz

[Rolf-Dieter ✝︎]

If you check out "Membership" you will find a sample Pagoda World issue 7 electronic copy under BENEFITS, if you page thru the magazine you will find complete details on the DATA CARD. The sample copy is available to our Guests, Associate and Full Members.

Of course if you become a Full Member many more details about your car come to light in our Technical Manual. There is simply no better investment we can make then less then 9 cents per day.

[pagoda113]

The car was delivered via the European delivery program with the owner visiting Germany to place his order. The car in fact resided in Wisconson, Milwaukee. The gentleman owned lots of farmland and would possibly explain why he ordered the undershields and oil bath filter amongst the other options he ordered.

[Pawel66]

Great insights! How did you figure these out?

[pagoda113]

Hi Pawel
I have all the original documentation from the day. Here is one example of many pieces of paper work. The original owner his address was registered too farmland and is still trading as farmland business. Myself and our dear friend Naj spent many hours studying this paper with some great interest.

[Pawel66]

I see. Yes, i can imagine - decoding and re-creating all this background!

This Hinweis might have been about the special delivery program as well.

[pagoda113]

I have been researching regarding the TROPICAL BATTERY option and would like to know what one would look like back then. How did it compare to the original standard battery was it different looking?
What brand would of this been. Would it still been a Varta ?

Would be grateful if someone has picture of one back then.
Thanks

[Mike Hughes]

On my data card box "9 Batterie" is filled in "Varta." I have seen other data cards with box "9 Batterie" filled in "Bosch."  Your data card box "9 Batterie" is blank.  I'm afraid this leaves us no clue as to what manufacturer supplied your car's tropical battery.

[pagoda113]

Thanks for your reply and yes had relised that may become issue. Let's say for arguement sake it was Varta how would it look in the way of original. Would it look any different ?
Thanks

[Mike Hughes]

The only possible clue I can come up with that the tropical battery differed in appearance from a standard would be if the battery hold-down frame originally supplied with your car is of a different dimension from the standard frame.  If your battery hold-down frame was replaced any time in the last 50-odd years with a standard one this clue no longer exists.

[pagoda113]

Hi Mike
At present still has original size frame. Guess it doest mean it was different from day one if tropical battery was of same size. But thankyou for your help so far.
At the moment I am really interested in what one actually looked like compared to original standard  varta or Bosch battery back in day. Did it look any different in style and color ?
Could reason not showing what brand battery used on data card be maybe totally different brand from from Varta or Bosch. I know it was not always filled In with Varta or Bosch brand and just left blank.

[Pawel66]

Have you tried simple Google search "vintage bosch tropical battery" ? Or Varta for that matter.

[MikeSimon]

There was an option code -677- at one time for some cars for "Tropenbatterie"
It looks like the "Tropenbatterie" was a more common equipment in the Unimog
I found a schematic, which looks like it is two batteries connected in sequence.

[pagoda113]

Hi Pawel
Yes tried the obvious but not getting anything relating to tropical battery for our cars back then.
Thanks Mike for your reply will do some more looking.

[Mike Hughes]

Chances are the battery manufacturer simply installed a different set of plates in the same basic case and assigned that configuration a different part number.  Kind of like the Die Hard batteries here in North America.  There are Die Hard, Die Hard Silver, and Die Hard Gold series batteries in each group number, each with higher cranking amp figures dependent on the plate sets installed.  They all use the same basic case in each group number, but have different part number labeling.  There are also different part numbers within each group and series for batteries with the positive post on the right and positive post on the left.

[JamesL]

[yippee kai yay….]
Sorry.

[pagoda113]

After going through all the detailed paper work I have finally found out exactly what battery this car had Mike.

[Mike Hughes]

Wow, that's quite a journal, and a great snap-shot resource for what many components were that came on a Pagoda at that time!

[pagoda113]

Yes Mike very good resource. Here is couple more shots from the journal. All I need to do now is find out what one of those batteries looked like. I have emailed hoppecke asking if they have achrive picture of one.

[pagoda113]

Little more researching Mike and came up with this. This was in the 190sl which was model before w113 obviously and can only assume must of been very identical or same of what would of been in w113.

[Mike Hughes]

Oh my!  External straps linking each of the six two-volt cells of the battery.  Don't want to lay a screwdriver or wrench on top of that one!

Reminds me of the battery in my 1951 M.G. TD when I acquired it from the estate of its original owner in 1971.  He had a set of 6-volt truck horns installed on a car with a twelve-volt system.  Where did he get his six volts from?  A wire run to a self-tapping screw on the middle of the three straps you see at the rear side of the battery in the 190SL photo!