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Brennie

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Dog Dish hub caps
« on: June 17, 2023, 18:08:39 »
Hi
I have just picked up a stencil set for my Dog Dish hub caps ( 230 SL ) .. actually, just got the hub caps too.. the large one piece ones were on my car.. the wrong ones( trying to recreate the original look)..
And, they don’t fit.. ??
Are the hub caps coming in two different sizes( or more) or are the stencils for another model altogether.. ?

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Re: Dog Dish hub caps
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2023, 18:50:58 »
There several stencil sets for different wheel covers. Perhaps this might help you:
https://www.sl113.org/forums/index.php?topic=21501.msg166567#msg166567

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Re: Dog Dish hub caps
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2023, 00:42:26 »
I'm sure there are people that can get the dog dish stencil to work, but I'm not one of them. I gave up after a couple of tries and just masked instead. Required a bit more prep time, but it worked perfectly.
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Re: Dog Dish hub caps
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2023, 21:49:00 »
So, I wonder what caps these fit? They are much bigger than the  W113 stencils.. but they look the same…or, could I have the wrong caps.. I haven’t fitted them to the rims yet.. what is the diameter or radius of W113 dish hub caps.. does anyone know?
I’ve just bought the rims and they are being powder coated at the moment…

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Re: Dog Dish hub caps
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2023, 23:06:57 »
Hi Brennie,

I just measured mine and they are 245 mm diameter,

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Re: Dog Dish hub caps
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2023, 05:00:52 »
Thank you… now to check..

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Re: Dog Dish hub caps
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2023, 19:06:40 »
Perhaps the dog dish caps you have are for 13” rather than 14” wheels?

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Re: Dog Dish hub caps
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2023, 20:44:19 »
Thank you.. that’s a thought.. I thought they were all one size.. but, I too measured them..245 across…

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Re: Dog Dish hub caps
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2023, 18:28:11 »
Have you sold your single-piece hub caps?  I've got a 280 and it's been fitted with the two-piece 230sl trims as the previous owner preferred them.  I'm keen to swap mine. 

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Re: Dog Dish hub caps
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2023, 18:35:26 »
I think the dog dish style hubcaps require a different wheel than do the one piece design.  I believe their wheels have special nubs that hold the center cap in place.  I’m not certain but I think they’re pictured in the tech manual section. 
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Re: Dog Dish hub caps
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2023, 20:33:21 »
It may be true that the 280 wheels don't have the nubs needed to hold the 230-style hub caps (as opposed to the full wheel covers) in place.  However, the 230 wheels will definitely also hold the 280-style wheel covers, as shown by the number of 230s with the incorrect covers on them.

When I bought my '66 230SL, it had the 280-style covers on the wheels, and I put some effort in converting back to the hub caps and beauty rings that belonged on it (much nicer, IMHO). 

In Andrew's case, he has the 230 covers on his 280, so it may not be true that the 280 wheels won't accept them.

Andrew, I still have my 280-style full wheel covers, and if it made sense from a shipping cost point of view, I would be happy to swap with you.  I'd have to get them from storage and check out their condition, but I believe that they were in nice shape.

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Re: Dog Dish hub caps
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2023, 21:14:10 »
The stencil you have is for the later one-piece trim. The dog dish one is smaller.

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Re: Dog Dish hub caps
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2023, 12:39:23 »
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