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John Betsch - "SADIE"

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Key Authenticity
« on: August 30, 2023, 22:25:48 »
Preparing to take my Pagoda for a ride, I happen to glance at my keys and noticed how "weathered" they appeared. 

I checked  the Tech Manual and see that it appears the original keys were made by a Neiman and a Ymos Company which mine are as shown.  My keys each have the key code stamped on them that matches my Data Card.  I assume they are the original keys for my '65.

So, that means these keys are fifty eight (58) years old.  Mercedes makes a product to last!
« Last Edit: August 30, 2023, 22:56:17 by John Betsch - "SADIE" »
JB; 1965 German market SL, Rot Met 571, Summary Code 213 Interior

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Re: Key Authenticity
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2023, 22:56:30 »
If the key codes are stamped into your keys then with a high level of certainty, these are original to the car.  Amazing!

A locksmith who has helped me said that these keys are made of steel, not brass with a chrome plating.   This makes them more durable and less prone to breaking.  I’d say your keys are proof positive of that opinion. 
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Re: Key Authenticity
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2023, 02:32:02 »
Mercedes makes a product to last!
You mean Ymos makes a product to last.
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Re: Key Authenticity
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2023, 14:42:25 »
European key blanks are generally steel. North American key blanks are generally made of softer brass or aluminum. Most locksmiths on this side of the pond won't cut a steel blank as one pass will destroy their cutting wheels, designed for cutting the softer blanks.
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Re: Key Authenticity
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2023, 13:28:51 »
Never thought of it before, but based on this thread, will have to add " this Sl also retains it's original (almost sixty-year old) keys" to my car info.
JB; 1965 German market SL, Rot Met 571, Summary Code 213 Interior

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Re: Key Authenticity
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2023, 14:50:59 »
When did the cars start to have a plastic handle?
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Re: Key Authenticity
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2023, 15:29:09 »
You mean plastic key head?

As of ident. no.: 044 010356 - this is what I see in parts list when Master Key and plastic key head appeared.
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Re: Key Authenticity
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2023, 17:50:48 »
Checking the list changes, published in Pagoda Notes, and available in the tech manual. The plastic headed keys became available on 250 SL, VIN ending in 3049.
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Re: Key Authenticity
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2023, 18:15:13 »
When the safety changes were introduced, assume they changed from three keys to one fits all
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