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Re: $150 Charge for Data Cards - Update - Your help is needed
« Reply #50 on: March 04, 2023, 22:29:03 »
My apologies - I have skimmed this article and I am a little confused - what is the current process in the US for requesting a data card ? Do I take documentation to a local dealer or do I need to reach out to a Classic Center (?) Any help would be appreciated. This request relates to a 1966 230 SL 5-speed.

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Re: $150 Charge for Data Cards - Update - Your help is needed
« Reply #51 on: March 04, 2023, 22:34:15 »
email
classicdatacards@mbusa.com
they will be able to help.

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Re: $150 Charge for Data Cards - Update - Your help is needed
« Reply #52 on: March 04, 2023, 23:46:48 »
email
classicdatacards@mbusa.com
they will be able to help -

you out of 150 bucks.
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Re: $150 Charge for Data Cards - Update - Your help is needed
« Reply #53 on: March 06, 2023, 17:04:08 »
Thank you for the information.

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Re: $150 Charge for Data Cards - Update - Your help is needed
« Reply #54 on: March 06, 2023, 19:40:38 »
You should realize this is just another situation where somebody wants to put their hands in your pocket.

On my daily drivers, Ford used to supply map updates for our cars. Now they charge quite a bit of money for the map update. What was infuriating is that the map that they originally supplied on our car was woefully out of date at the time of delivery.

One of my clients, an elderly lady, was charged $600 from Subaru for her SD card map update.

I hear BMW is charging a monthly subscription fee for certain options.

The greed is astounding and getting worse I’m afraid.

Thankfully got the awful print from microfiche for my data card when it was free. It certainly wasn’t worth $150.

Also thankful that Apple Maps, Google maps, Waze and other mapping programs feature real time updates, don’t go stale, and are free.
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Re: $150 Charge for Data Cards - Update - Your help is needed
« Reply #55 on: April 27, 2023, 13:19:56 »
Thankfully got the awful print from microfiche for my data card when it was free. It certainly wasn’t worth $150.
I am looking at my 23 year old "awful print from microfiche for my data card" this morning and it's unreadable in parts.  I think I'll cough up the $150 for good images before it gets even more expensive.
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Re: $150 Charge for Data Cards - Update - Your help is needed
« Reply #56 on: April 27, 2023, 14:09:11 »
Rodd, I don't think you'll get anything better from MB classic center.  You might consider contacting Alpina to recreate the card set.

https://www.sl113.org/forums/index.php?topic=36477.msg266714#msg266714
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Re: $150 Charge for Data Cards - Update - Your help is needed
« Reply #57 on: April 27, 2023, 19:19:35 »
I just had Alpina produce a set of cards for my car. Must say he was first class

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Re: $150 Charge for Data Cards - Update - Your help is needed
« Reply #58 on: July 29, 2023, 04:25:45 »
I requested data card from classic center and this what they emails back odd. does anyone know what this means?

Dear Mr.

Thank you for your inquiry.

 We apologize, but we (Mercedes-Benz Classic Contact Center) are not able to issue a data card for your vehicle. Please therefore contact your local Mercedes-Benz dealership to apply for a data card.

The department for service and parts is able to order the data card for your vehicle in the archives of the Mercedes-Benz Group AG.

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Re: $150 Charge for Data Cards - Update - Your help is needed
« Reply #59 on: July 29, 2023, 08:40:14 »
It may mean they changed procedures and delegated issuing of data cards in the US from Classic Center to dealers.
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Re: $150 Charge for Data Cards - Update - Your help is needed
« Reply #60 on: July 29, 2023, 19:26:45 »
I requested data card from classic center and this what they emails back odd. does anyone know what this means?

Dear Mr.

Thank you for your inquiry.

 We apologize, but we (Mercedes-Benz Classic Contact Center) are not able to issue a data card for your vehicle. Please therefore contact your local Mercedes-Benz dealership to apply for a data card.

The department for service and parts is able to order the data card for your vehicle in the archives of the Mercedes-Benz Group AG.

My be what Pawel says is true. I would call them and talk to one of their sales people.
They are usually quite helpful. Have them
confirm that they no longer supply these.
I am happily working with Jon Sigerrson on my part needs for a long time. He will tell you.
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Re: $150 Charge for Data Cards - Update - Your help is needed
« Reply #61 on: July 31, 2023, 11:29:12 »
It may mean they changed procedures and delegated issuing of data cards in the US from Classic Center to dealers.

As I work for a local Mercedes dealer I can tell you what happened...
MB has partially "out sourced" issuing and Classic Center is not more responsible for doing this. We (as MB dealers) have a special platform communicating with M@RS DaCar  ( https://mercedes-benz-publicarchive.com/marsClassic/de/instance/ko/Willkommen-bei-Classic-MaRS.xhtml?oid=34685039 ). Procedure is much faster and we as dealers are payin little les than 150,- bucks for getting data card from them.
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Re: $150 Charge for Data Cards - Update - Your help is needed
« Reply #62 on: August 01, 2023, 15:02:28 »
Interesting error in the text for 113 in Sead's link.
Who can spot it?

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Re: $150 Charge for Data Cards - Update - Your help is needed
« Reply #63 on: August 01, 2023, 16:07:18 »
….7 camshaft bearings….
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Re: $150 Charge for Data Cards - Update - Your help is needed
« Reply #64 on: August 01, 2023, 17:09:58 »
It was too easy for this well informed group!

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Re: $150 Charge for Data Cards - Update - Your help is needed
« Reply #65 on: August 01, 2023, 17:26:25 »
Sead's link is to a German language site and not a site for W113's, so I had no hope to find what you were talking about.  What am I missing?
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Re: $150 Charge for Data Cards - Update - Your help is needed
« Reply #66 on: August 01, 2023, 19:25:37 »
Rodd, The site also has an English language option.  Maybe not so obvious at first glance.
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Re: $150 Charge for Data Cards - Update - Your help is needed
« Reply #67 on: August 01, 2023, 19:57:45 »
OK, I didn't see it.  Very subtle.  I I see the next step was to dig deep through the menu on the left side.  A bit of a treasure hunt, but fun.  I still don't see a reference to the number of bearings.  Must be in one of those supporting docs?
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Re: $150 Charge for Data Cards - Update - Your help is needed
« Reply #68 on: August 01, 2023, 21:05:15 »
Rodd, if you can't find it, it might make you a bit cranky!
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Re: $150 Charge for Data Cards - Update - Your help is needed
« Reply #69 on: November 10, 2023, 23:09:03 »
Hi all, so we are finally ready and have all our paperwork straightened out and need to get the data cards for our 1968 280SL and i went to the site posted (new one a few post back) cant find any info on the topic. We need keys for the car !! lol fricken locksmiths won't come to car and make a key even ! Can't take out the key mechanism with breaking the darn steering wheel lock.
Please help me find the right spot with the info i need, 2 years now and i want to be able to turn the steering wheel! lol I can fire it up by the hotwire rig. need muffler system from manifold back. and finish up the rear brake lines. hopefully on the road next spring.
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Re: $150 Charge for Data Cards - Update - Your help is needed
« Reply #70 on: November 10, 2023, 23:27:42 »
Hi all, so we are finally ready and have all our paperwork straightened out and need to get the data cards for our 1968 280SL and i went to the site posted (new one a few post back) cant find any info on the topic. We need keys for the car !! lol fricken locksmiths won't come to car and make a key even ! Can't take out the key mechanism with breaking the darn steering wheel lock.
Please help me find the right spot with the info i need, 2 years now and i want to be able to turn the steering wheel! lol I can fire it up by the hotwire rig. need muffler system from manifold back. and finish up the rear brake lines. hopefully on the road next spring.

For data card email classicdatacards@mbusa.com  You will need to provide a copy of the title and your ID as proof of ownership.

For key email classicparts@mbusa.com They should be able to cut a key as long as the ignition is original, will also have to provide proof of ownership as above

For exhaust call Timevalve manufacturing for a complete OEM style stainless system from the manifold back. 321-254-7200
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Re: $150 Charge for Data Cards - Update - Your help is needed
« Reply #71 on: November 10, 2023, 23:40:27 »
Thank you very much for the extremely fast reply, am on it as we speak. Going to kill a few birds with 1 stone as they say,lol. Won't be til next month on the exhaust. But first time her and i drive it out of the garage first pic goes here ! Without the abundance of information on this site I or we Her and I rather would never have been able to pull it off. Thank you very much !!
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