Author Topic: Fair Valuation of a 1971 280SL automatic  (Read 5444 times)

Cees Klumper

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Re: Fair Valuation of a 1971 280SL automatic
« Reply #25 on: December 16, 2023, 04:45:34 »
Thanks for the update and congratulations on the purchase!
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1969 Mercedes 280 SL automatic
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Re: Fair Valuation of a 1971 280SL automatic
« Reply #26 on: December 16, 2023, 19:21:24 »
We look forward to following along and/or helping out with the restoration.  We've been online 20 years, so there is a lot of info if you get into the search function.  Lots of people willing to help interactively (people respond pretty quickly).  Join as a full member to get access to some additional info in the Tech Manual.  Also, use the membership database to find members near you, reach out, and meet.
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Re: Fair Valuation of a 1971 280SL automatic
« Reply #27 on: December 17, 2023, 12:58:34 »
I am going 30-40k. If you get it for 25k, it would be a good deal.

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Cees Klumper

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Re: Fair Valuation of a 1971 280SL automatic
« Reply #28 on: December 18, 2023, 05:40:30 »
Told you so. It's a good deal though..
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1969 Mercedes 280 SL automatic
1968 Ford Mustang 302 V8
1961 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Sprint Coupe 1600
1962 FIAT 1500S OSCA convertible
1972 Lancia Fulvia Coupe 1.3
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Re: Fair Valuation of a 1971 280SL automatic
« Reply #29 on: December 18, 2023, 08:04:02 »
I think that 25K is tops for a car that needs restoring. In this case both buyer and seller should be content that a good deal was struck.

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Re: Fair Valuation of a 1971 280SL automatic
« Reply #30 on: December 18, 2023, 15:42:43 »
I think that 25K is tops for a car that needs restoring. In this case both buyer and seller should be content that a good deal was struck.

Emphasis added on "should be" particularly for the seller. However you may be surprised, or maybe not; there's this "halo" around the three point star, and a lot of those who find themselves in possession of a tired and worn old Mercedes--a Pagoda in particular--will place unrealistic value on it due to both their ignorance of what it takes to bring it back to life, and this imaginary "halo". Their guidepost is the minuscule amount of research they've done on cars that have sold, and they seemingly dismiss the difference between a running car and a junker.

Back in 2012, I paid a visit on behalf of [well known early member] Pete Lesler to a 230SL that he had gotten a lead on. It was in a barn--a real barn, NOT a garage--up a two-track path. The car had belonged to the woman's father, and had been sitting untouched for decades. Nearly everything on the car organic was gone; disintegrated from age and rodents. I found very little salvageable on the hulk; nothing could be used without major restoration or replacement. Even simply removing the car to daylight, and then to a tow-truck would have required dragging it out of the barn with a small tractor down to the road where it could then be placed on a flatbed. We've seen cars like this, like the one pulled out of the Neckar River (OK, that was worse...). In reviewing the car for Pete I took a lot of photos and had him on the phone as I looked at it on his behalf. Fresh in my mind was the 1,000+ hours of labor and at least $50K in parts it took to restore mine 1999-2001. The challenge was the woman who owned it was one of those smitten by the halo and the promise of a windfall because it was a Pagoda.

She was adamant that it was worth $15K and wasn't willing to discuss anything lower.  Remember this was 2012, before the days of six-figure Pagodas. I don't know what ever happened to it, if anything, but it carried the VIN 113.042-10-00072 making it an early 230SL. Maybe it's still in the barn in Southfield, MI.

(N.B. I have the photos in a folder on my computer titled "Crappy old Pagoda for Pete")
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Re: Fair Valuation of a 1971 280SL automatic
« Reply #31 on: December 29, 2023, 22:31:32 »
Congratulations!  The car looks much better than I expected.  Should be a great project that will give you and your brother years of enjoyment! Don't let the nah-sayers scare you. The parts are all available and the technical no-how is all over the web. Time, patience and money (not necessarily in the order) is all you need.  Enjoy!

Jed