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[Douglas]

So does the car still have its amber French headlamps, Rob? Also, does it have any stickers left written in French? (valve cover, bootlid, etc.)

[rob walker]

No, thats the strange thing. Spec seems very non-French.
Could it be that a car was ordered in France for delivery elsewhere as all the information I have reflects a German owner who took it to Spain.

Rob Walker

1968 280SL papyrus white/green leather
2004 230 SLK silver

[Douglas]

I think it's possible to trace it to a specific dealership through some of its numbers somewhere. Forget which ones. This is a good question for Klaus or Achim.

In any event, I think a lot of those French features are all simple bolt-ons, so I wouldn't assume there's anything strange about it not having French specs all these years later. Perhaps the previous owner can put you in touch with the person from whom he or she purchased the car?

One more thing: take a really good look under the seats. I'll bet there are loose coins under the seats that will tell you a lot about where the car has spent its life.

[waltklatt]

Also in addition to looking in the dashboard and under the seats for coins.  Look at the softtop instruction label inside the softtop compartment on the drivers side.  If the instructions are in french then indeed the car is a french version.  The other items can be changed out easily, but the sticker is often overlooked.  I have the german, french, english and international stickers.  I need to find them again.
Walter Klatt
1967 220SL-diesel english sticker
1963 230SL-gas german sticker

[Douglas]

Walter, the 1970 Swiss SL I used to own was specifically ordered with French books & stickers throughout (indicated on data card), but the soft top well had the standard multi-language sticker & it was clearly original.

[waltklatt]

Hmmm, this is another interesting area to research more on.  
How about if we do a poll and ask the members to check which language they have on their stickers and the delivery code(country of delivery).
Might be interesting.
Also would like to know if there is interest to photograph the various stickers with different languages on them and post them to the group.
Walter Klatt
1967 220SL-diesel
1963 230SL-gas

[KevinC]

Mine is in French-Canadian. (still looking for a laugh here..."toroughly"???)

quote:Originally posted by waltklatt

Hmmm, this is another interesting area to research more on.  
How about if we do a poll and ask the members to check which language they have on their stickers and the delivery code(country of delivery).
Might be interesting.
Also would like to know if there is interest to photograph the various stickers with different languages on them and post them to the group.
Walter Klatt
1967 220SL-diesel
1963 230SL-gas

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Kevin Caputo
Boca Raton, FL
1967 230 SL Automatic
670 Light Ivory
113 Bronze/Brown MB Tex

[mille]

Hi,

Our Pagoda is sadly missing the data plate. Do anybody know if it's possible to obtain a replacement plate from MB in Stuttgart or from elsewhere?

Thanks

Finn
230 Sl 1964 4-speed Euro model silver metallic

[rwmastel]

quote:Originally posted by mille

Our Pagoda is sadly missing the data plate.

Do you mean the one attached to the left fender in the engine bay?  I suggest you make a contact here and find out.

DaimlerChrysler AG
HPC 096/ G 328
704546 Stuttgart
Deutschland

Phone ++49 (0) 7 11/ 17-5 41 38
Fax ++49 (0) 7 11/ 17-79 05 41 38
till.dillenburger@daimlerchrysler.com

Rodd
Powell, Ohio, USA
1966 230SL, Euro, Auto, Leather, both  tops
1994 E420

[mbzse]

quote:James Huber wrote:
 The destination can be found right on the data card -- if any one wonders where their car first graced the highway

List,
Some research to chart the complete M-B dealer code list has been performed some years back. See the result at:
http://homepage.hispeed.ch/nitwit/tech/dealers.htm
(please note that this is a temporary server which will change /the info will be moved in a short while!)

Alex Gabard and a number of other enthusiasts (myself included) made the list with great help from the DC Archives. You see from it also the language for stickers and Owners manual

Other web pages on this link give info on how to read the Group number classification, structure for M-B part numbers and much else. Enjoy!



/Hans in Stockholm

[J. Huber]

Yes Hans, that's the one I was referring to! Thanks. I hope we can somehow preserve this list in the database section for future reference.

-- Yet this great info has actually clouded one thing for me. As noted earlier, mine was delivered to The Netherlands (553). Hans' list indicates I should have an owner's manual in Dutch. However, the manual seems to be in 5 different languages... German, English, and three others, one of which is certainly Dutch! Here's an entry for the section on Driving -- maybe someone can identify the various languages? (I got the first two!)

Das Fahren  
Driving    
Korning (umlaut over o)  
Korsel  (slash thru o)
Het rijden

                     
James
63 230SL

[Douglas]

I'm from New Amsterdam and I think that last one is Dutch :-)

I wouldn't assume there was a purely Dutch owner's manual. I believe many of the markets got the multi-language literature. I'll defer to one of our Dutch members to confirm this.

[mille]

Hi James,

Yes, one of the other languages is Danish. The 230 SL we used to own before our current 230 SL came with Owners manual printed also in Danish language. As far as I remember (but not sure - sold the manual with the vehicle)the two other languages were Swedish and Norwegian. Can you confirm this, Hans?

Hej!

/Finn (Denmark)
230 SL 1964 Euro 4-speed manual silver metallic/black leather interior

[mbzse]

quote:Originally posted by James Huber

../.. the manual seems to be in 5 different languages... German, English, and three others, one of which is certainly Dutch!

James, Finn and List,
Some owners manuals were multi-language yes. On the spine of the one you have, it says "230SL nord." right?
Look at the last page inside the rear cover, note a code for the book there. Perhaps "KTDF VI.66 10K" in your case(?) (printed June 1966). Languages English/German/Swedish/Danish and Dutch.

For the "250SL nord." book, Finnish was also added (six languages). And on the next version, "280SL nord." it's back to five, English was dropped.

/Hans in Stockholm

[J. Huber]

Hans, mine does say 230 SL Nord on the spine. Then on back page it reads KTDF 1. 65. 3. N. K.  Now if my car is a 1963, am I to infer that the manual is not the original one (since it was printed in 65?)

James
63 230SL