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Poll - How many women vs. men own a Pagoda?
« on: August 05, 2006, 21:06:17 »
Hey guys;
After seeing the post by Cees on how often we spot another pagoda, I've always wondered how many members here are men or women...For example, I have read while virtually all Jaguar E-Type owners are men, the Pagoda is cherished by men and women alike...does the maintenance of a classic mitigate ownership by women? Then there are some cars that only women seem to own, like VWs...I also read some time ago, that Volvo after the war needed to cater to men, so if you notice the Volvo grill features the circle/arrow symbol for male....interesting.
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Joe

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Re: Poll - How many women vs. men own a Pagoda?
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2006, 00:30:31 »
As far as members here, I estimate that less than 4% are women. But that is not necessarily indicative of the % of female Pagoda owners/regular drivers, because we are probably not a representative cross-section of the approx. 35.000 Pagoda ownership community. I would expect the % in the whole population to be a bit higher.

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Re: Poll - How many women vs. men own a Pagoda?
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2006, 01:01:32 »
Audrey is the wife's car

Except she never gets to drive it... :mrgreen:
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Re: Poll - How many women vs. men own a Pagoda?
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2006, 08:05:51 »
Sophia Loren drove a Pagoda in 'Arabesque' (1966) with Gregory Peck.  Many pix of her in a (eye)candy red 113 in London?.

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Re: Poll - How many women vs. men own a Pagoda?
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2006, 03:23:08 »
Every movie I've ever seen (save one) shows a lady driving a pagoda.  The exception was Richard Gere in one where he crashes the thing trying to avoid a tractor or something (the movie's a flash-back of what led up to the crash... he had 2 women going... I think he was married to one of them (in the movie)... I forget the name of the movie though.

I also remember the early 80's living in Europe (Germany)... the male population I hung out with considered the pagoda a woman's car by then... a sort of pass-me-down to the females from the generation before that were the original buyers.  Interestingly, the 300SL's (Gullwings, roadsters, & coupes) were still the men's domain if you could find one in Europe not rusted out or totaled.... a German I know spent 5 years working in US and bought as many Gullwings in as many years... from Arizona, Texas, and California... original's, unrestored... that was in the mid-to late seventies.  He was paying well under $100k per at that time (as I recall, he was paying $40k - $60k or so... but I'm frankly a little vague on this 30 years later) .... and he shipped them all back to Germany (to Stuttgart) where he and a partner were in the restoration business... his partner was one of the original craftsman builders of the 300sl's at MB.... and they hired retired MB craftsman that had built the original's at MB factory.  This German (a kid really... maybe 30 years old at the time) figured the Gullwings would be worth US$300k in 10 years if properly restored...  I'm sure these ex-MB builders had lots of insider friends at MB so parts were probably something they could get outside the 'classic' car channels we normal consumer's have to go thru.

They (the 300's) were definitely men's domain.  There was little interest in the early 80's even in the 113's in Germany... and the little interest that existed was primarily as a wife's or girlfriend's, a male status symbol by proxy... if your wife or girlfriend drove your 113, you (as a male) had a certain status among other males.

During that period, my best friend's daughter (German) was in her mid twenties... and she coveted a 280SL as her sought-after status as an independant modern Germnan female --- she was a female German cop, non-office type... drove a BMW Police cruiser (read high speed chase car) and her primary beat was the Autobahn,  btw... rare breed for a female at that time.

Remember the movie "10"?.... whatsherface, (the ever patient jilted 40 something girlfriend, she was the lead in that musical in the alps.... geeze my memory's fading here bigtime) drove a baby blue one.

Isn't there a member's picture's forum or something on this site... I seem to recall looking it over last year.... and several owners were women.  I also knew 1 lady at work who owned a 113, and one that was for sale a year or two ago in Los Gatos was owned by a woman... and in fact, I bought mine from a woman owner in '84.  Come to think of it, the only male owners I know participate in the 1st Sunday Drives.

On the other hand, my wife's car is an '02 SL500.... Firemist Red, AMG wheels, Sport Version no less.... parked in the garage right next to her other one... a Smoke Silver '94 SL500 (we're selling).  Oh, and guess who really, really, really want's my 250SL?////???? My daughter!! Not my son!!!  AAAANDDD... to top that off, my next door neighbor recently remarried and his new wife just saw my 250SL the other day and guess what?  He's now asking me about what they cost and how much SHE want's one (a 113 automatic) now.

I have a gut feel that ever since the Mazda Miata came out the appeal of the convertable 2-seater, smallish sports cars in the US to women without kids (or before the kids come, or after the kids are on their own) has increased. ... in the interim, it's an SUV to haul the kids to Soccer practise.


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Re: Poll - How many women vs. men own a Pagoda?
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2006, 05:06:55 »
About 2 years ago i bought a RHD pagoda parts car from a classic car dealer.  The dealer who had recently fallen through a ceiling and gotten fed up of the city life and packed his bags and moved to the country side (sommerset) to bring up his children.  After spending the better part of the day touring his farm we starting talking pagodas.  Amongst other things he told me (i almost took offense [:0]) that the majority of pagodas he had sold in the city were mostly to rich men buying motors for their girlfriends.  

Most guys when they see the pagoda recognise it to be a proper classic motor.  The ladies , on the other hand, really drool on the looks alone and im not sure if the classic car historical apsect really applies here.  

My bottom line is the pagoda is possibly the best engineered motor car of its time and a beuatiful car none the less.  
And the chics really dig it.  :D
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Re: Poll - How many women vs. men own a Pagoda?
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2006, 05:25:24 »
My mechanic up here on the Northshore of Chicago jokingly refered to the Pagoda as the secretary's car.  He has been working on these Mercedes since they were new.  A local member's wife drove one to High School back then.
Julie Andrew of Sound of Music fame was in "10".


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Re: Poll - How many women vs. men own a Pagoda?
« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2006, 06:25:08 »
I'll have to agree with some of the assessments here...if my recent showing is any indication.  In my circle of 10 collectable cars, including Porsche, Jag, BMW 507, etc. the ONLY pictures taken of people next to the car were of WOMEN next to MY PAGODA.  The men don't want a picture of themselves with an MGA, or with the BMW, or Jag or Vette, and neither do the women.  But the women most definitely want a picture of themselves with the Pagoda.

I often let them sit in it for the photo so it looks like "they know what they want and know where they are going!!"

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