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erickmarciano

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rear axle whine ????
« on: May 27, 2007, 21:53:14 »
took my car the 1st time in 3 year whit the soft top up and i got a whine from the diff . i was told it could be the main diff bearing. < changed the diff mont already>
how hard whould it be the replace that bearing?
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Re: rear axle whine ????
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2007, 06:30:00 »
Hello Erick,

What's the history on this? Is it a new noise?

Joe Alexander
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Re: rear axle whine ????
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2007, 09:48:38 »
I think this noise was there since I purchased the car.

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Re: rear axle whine ????
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2007, 19:17:16 »
eric
 my 66 230 had a whine,  then I changed the diff fluid, no noise.
the fluid in my diff was low

matt

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Re: rear axle whine ????
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2007, 21:29:23 »
I tried that and did not work   what next?
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Re: rear axle whine ????
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2007, 22:26:40 »
Hello Erick,

Over-tightening the slotted spanner nut on the differential flange (at the driveshft) will cause the pinion bearings to make noise. Do you know if anyone has ever tampered with this? Any bearings can be changed, but if the problem is a worn ring or pinion gear, then your better off replacing the diff with a complete good used diff. Any major parts will be much more expensive than a good used diff. There are plenty of good used ones around.

Joe Alexander
Blacklick, Ohio
« Last Edit: May 28, 2007, 22:28:48 by ja17 »
Joe Alexander
Blacklick, Ohio
1969 Dark Olive 280SL
2002 ML55 AMG (tow vehicle)
2002 SLK32 AMG (350 hp)
1982 300TD Wagon turbo 4spd.
1963 404 Mercedes Unimog (Swedish Army)
1989 flu419 Mercedes Unimog (US Army)
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Re: rear axle whine ????
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2007, 11:42:35 »
no one has tampered with it since I purchased the car 4 years ago.would it be cheap and easy to replace the rear bearing and see what it does?

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Re: rear axle whine ????
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2007, 20:54:33 »
Hello
Erick,

There are a total of six bearings in the differential assembly. The axle bearings are the least difficult to change.

Joe Alexander
Blacklick, Ohio
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1969 Dark Olive 280SL
2002 ML55 AMG (tow vehicle)
2002 SLK32 AMG (350 hp)
1982 300TD Wagon turbo 4spd.
1963 404 Mercedes Unimog (Swedish Army)
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Re: rear axle whine ????
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2007, 07:24:29 »
just discovered I have a rear right bearing that is bad can this cause the noise? . it does not get worst when i turn
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Re: rear axle whine ????
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2007, 08:06:59 »
Erick, is it a really, really high pitch that seems to come from right rear wheel? Does it happen at medium/high speeds? How about the moment you touch the brakes?

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Re: rear axle whine ????
« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2007, 09:31:40 »
not to high . the noise stops when I hit the clutch pedal

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Re: rear axle whine ????
« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2007, 12:26:23 »
Darn. I was hoping we had the same problem that you could figure out then I could follow along! Yours seems more gear/axle related -- mine maybe wheel bearings or brakes?... Not sure at all of this.

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Re: rear axle whine ????
« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2007, 12:47:27 »
Erick,
 
quote:
the noise stops when I hit the clutch pedal


Why is the clutch release bearing not a suspect?
Is the whine present when the car is stationary?
It's quite amazing how noise travels along a drive line...

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Re: rear axle whine ????
« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2007, 13:47:53 »
You say you've changed your diff fluid, but have you changed your transmission fluid? When I bought my '66 111 coupe, I noticed a medium-frequency whine, which used to disappear/diminish whenever I pressed the clutch. Once I changed the transmission fluid, this whine was gone.

Of course, now I can hear all sorts of other sounds... but they can wait.

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Re: rear axle whine ????
« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2007, 16:12:41 »
can the rear pinion bearings be changed without removing the axle?
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Re: rear axle whine ????
« Reply #15 on: May 31, 2007, 21:34:33 »
Hello Erick,
Normally only the axle bearings are replaced with the diff. still in the car. replacement of other bearings may involve more dis-assembly and complicated setting of the ring and pinion gears.

If your noise goes away when you put in the clutch your problem is most likely not rear end related.

Joe Alexander
Blacklick, Ohio
« Last Edit: June 01, 2007, 10:10:20 by ja17 »
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2002 ML55 AMG (tow vehicle)
2002 SLK32 AMG (350 hp)
1982 300TD Wagon turbo 4spd.
1963 404 Mercedes Unimog (Swedish Army)
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1965 220SE Finback

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Re: rear axle whine ????
« Reply #16 on: June 12, 2007, 06:47:30 »
the noise is less when the clutch is on but more on aceleration or deceleration , for sure from the diff . want to try my luck on the rear pignion bearing . can it be changed with the diff in place?
thanks

2004 Volvo V70-R
1971 280sl
1962 VW bug
1971 Harley FLH
1962 gs160 vespa
1994 E500 W124
1971 280sl
1989 Porsche 930 coupe
1988 e30 m3
2001 ducati mh900
2006 ps1000
1962 Vespa GS160