Author Topic: Is this really an original color? (Read 12231 times)

Kenneth Gear · « **on:** August 24, 2007, 10:57:23 »

Ths ebay seller claims this to have been repainted in the original color. Yikes!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MERCEDES-BENZ-SL-ROADSTER-CONVERTIBLE-GERMAN-ADDITION_W0QQitemZ200145397504QQihZ010QQcategoryZ6338QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Ken G
1971 280 SL Silver/red
1969 BMW 2800 (sedan)

Douglas · « **Reply #1 on:** August 24, 2007, 11:35:19 »

I think that's 463/copper-metallic like this car previously posted here:

http://www.sl113.org/forums/uploaded/280sl71/200462075256_Copper_Car.jpg

Douglas Kim
New York
USA

ptomey · « **Reply #2 on:** August 24, 2007, 11:45:07 »

Penny for your thoughts...

Paul Tomey
Tierra Verde,FL

1968 280SL Light Ivory (Enjoy)
2002 Porsche 996TT (Track)
2003 Van Dieman Formula Car (Race)
2006 Yukon Denali (Tow Cars and Haul Kids)

mdsalemi · « **Reply #3 on:** August 24, 2007, 12:54:59 »

Hey Dr. Benz--doesn't this color look somewhat like that one from Toronto--the singer??

Michael Salemi
1969 280SL
Signal Red 568G w/Black Leather (Restored)
President, International Stars Section
Mercedes-Benz Club of America

john collins · « **Reply #4 on:** August 24, 2007, 18:55:32 »

I believe that shade was called "fecal mustard". How many forward-facing lamps does it take to see when driving? I guess when your car's paint is sucking all of the light out of the environment, you need six...

I should not judge, we were recently going through family photos, and there was plenty of avacado, harvest gold, burnt orange and brown during our 1970's.

John

hauser · « **Reply #5 on:** August 24, 2007, 19:33:33 »

Clearly a special order car being that it's a "German Addition"

1969 280sl 5 spd
Gainesville, Fl.

Chad · « **Reply #6 on:** August 24, 2007, 22:13:03 »

One of the factory Goldfinger Edition. Definitely retro and period.

Could have been interesting if he would have posted a pic of the "goth" tops he described.

1967 230SL
2007 Feathercraft K1 Kayak and Aleut Paddle
(A sometimes happy marriage of technology)

Benz Dr. · « **Reply #7 on:** August 24, 2007, 23:27:36 »

Uh. Yeah..... that's a nice colour. I had one here today that is about the same shade but a bit on the rough side. Had a set of those Bosch wires with the 90 degree end and a carbon core coil wire. I fixed that.

The singer from Toronto that was at my party last summer is Ian Thomas. This is the brother of the comic Dave Thomas who was one of the Mac Kenzie brothers named Bob and Doug.
Ian did have a number of hits back in the 70's - the one that comes to mind is '' Painted ladies and a bottle of wine.''
His car is an Italian import best described as John Deere green.

Dan Caron's
SL Barn
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Ann · « **Reply #8 on:** August 25, 2007, 23:02:51 »

There is a similar era in Corvettes (post '68) where the body shape changed into a Mako shark and the colors were all too bright, the horsepower was downsized, and the bumpers became rubber.

My boyfriend calls this the *disco* Corvette....LOL.

Well my friends, we have just seen a DISCO Pagoda (above).

aaaaaakkkkk. How *could* they!

Ann

'70 Euro 280 SL silver
'06 BMW Z4 Montego Blue
'98 Jeep Gr.Cherokee (125K mi.)

hauser · « **Reply #9 on:** August 25, 2007, 23:19:53 »

With this car being a Euro model is it possible that the first owner special ordered it in this particular color? I read somewhere that German customers could pick any Mercedes color, past or present they wished to have.

1969 280sl 5 spd
Gainesville, Fl.

France · « **Reply #10 on:** August 26, 2007, 06:16:55 »

How could the car have been gold originally, with a green interior? Don't you think it would have to have been dark metallic green or some such?

Maybe we should send it to the Disco Inferno, burn the paint off and start over! Burn, baby, burn...

Trice
1968 280SL US, signal red/bl leather, auto, kinder seat
Sarasota FL; Alsace France; Switzerland
Think of your Pagoda as a woman with a past...

Chad · « **Reply #11 on:** August 26, 2007, 07:23:28 »

It seems strange that a car would be produced for the euro market with such a tacky factory color. But tastes change over the years. Retro colors are retro for a reason.

1967 230SL
2007 Feathercraft K1 Kayak and Aleut Paddle
(A sometimes happy marriage of technology)

TFM · « **Reply #12 on:** August 26, 2007, 16:01:39 »

The gold is not an original color, neither in the US or Germany. Metallic paints available were:

Metallic-Sonderfarbtöne:

172 anthrazitgrau
178 mittelgrau
180 silbergrau
387 blau
396 mittelblau
461 broncebraun
462 tunisbeige
463 kupfer
467 sandbeige
567 lasurrot
571 rot
728 beigegrau
834 moosgrün
906 hellblau

Douglas · « **Reply #13 on:** August 26, 2007, 16:08:34 »

I've never seen this particular car on ebay, but I give it the benefit of the doubt because I've seen a 280 SL with a similar color scheme and thought it looked great.

Some color schemes just have to be seen in the flesh to be appreciated. I guess I've also grown to appreciate a lot of the quirkier colors that the Germans offered. And it appears I'm not alone—the so-called "safety colors" (orange, yellow and mint green) that were more visible in the fog are all fairly coveted in BMW and Porsche circles today.

One final comment: The color in question here is the exact same shade of gold as Ed Cave's 911S as well as a high-end BMW 3.0CSi that Brian Peters recently sold at motoringinvestments.com. (Both can still be seen on his website, incidentally.) Both cars are stunners. Truly.

Douglas Kim
New York
USA

KevinC · « **Reply #14 on:** August 26, 2007, 17:43:46 »

Check out the pic that shows the dash...I'll bet this was a Tunis Beige car at one time!

Kevin Caputo
Boca Raton, FL
1967 230 SL Automatic
670 Light Ivory
113 Bronze/Brown MB Tex

Benz Dr. · « **Reply #15 on:** August 26, 2007, 20:47:49 »

I think gold is an original 113 colour as I've seen several and I know some were never changed from original. I have one here right now so I'll post the code tomorrow.

Dan Caron's
SL Barn
benzbarn@ebtech.net
slbarn.mbz.org
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Chad · « **Reply #16 on:** August 26, 2007, 22:46:53 »

From looking at those pictures in Pagoda World, this particular color looks like a cross between copper and the tunis beige, but not one or the other. From whatever the pics are worth.

1967 230SL
2007 Feathercraft K1 Kayak and Aleut Paddle
(A sometimes happy marriage of technology)

mbz.280sl · « **Reply #17 on:** August 27, 2007, 07:10:24 »

I have a 1969 280SL in gold. Mercedes calls it Sand Beige Metallic. The paint code is 467. It's the original color of my car. The color of the car on ebay certainly is not Sand Beige.

Otto
1969 280SL, Manual, AC, Sand Beige

peterm · « **Reply #18 on:** August 27, 2007, 07:32:16 »

There are a few things also out of order, that looks like a 107 steering wheel. Isnt the spare usually tilted inwards not out?

Kenneth Gear · « **Reply #19 on:** August 27, 2007, 07:37:07 »

Doug,

I noticed the same thing when I saw the color and thought of the BMW on the Motoring Investments site. I really like it on both the Porsche and the BMW but not-so-much on the pagoda. Perhaps you're right that it looks better in person than in pictures.

Ken G
1971 280 SL Silver/red
1969 BMW 2800 (sedan)

al_lieffring · « **Reply #20 on:** August 27, 2007, 07:46:27 »

Did Earl Sheib have painting shops in Germany? It looks a lot like one of his 49 premium paint colors.

Al Lieffring
66 230Sl
Jones'n for a new gas tank

Benz Dr. · « **Reply #21 on:** August 27, 2007, 07:49:46 »

If youi paint the car with the correct code in base clear it has the right colour. If you use acrylic enamel it comes out too dark in a sort of copper bronze. Maybe this the problem.

Dan Caron's
SL Barn
benzbarn@ebtech.net
slbarn.mbz.org
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114015 · « **Reply #22 on:** August 27, 2007, 16:31:01 »

Could be "Ikonengold metallic DB 419" but I am not sure.
A 70ies Mercedes paint code.

Best,

Achim

Achim
(Magdeburg, Germany)

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