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Fernando

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Air filter doubt
« on: December 04, 2007, 20:16:26 »
I am trying to close bussiness with this early 250SL  43 10 000207.

Looking on EPC it doesnt accept car air filter ( that exist in the engine housing - pic)The air filter it accepts as ok is the one in the figure without hose.....Is the air filter in the car an adaptation?

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Re: Air filter doubt
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2007, 20:45:22 »
Hello Fernando,

The first diagram is a correct filter assembly.

The second diagram looks like it could be a permanent "oil bath" filtering unit. Was this a possible option on sedans? or W113 cars?  Most early Mercedes diesel engines used the "oil bah" style.



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Re: Air filter doubt
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2007, 20:48:05 »
Hi,
the first pic shows the canister for a sedan or coupe. The SL canister is different but the air filter is the same.

The second pic is one of these oil bath types. I've never seen one but I guess there are a few around.

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Re: Air filter doubt
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2007, 21:01:49 »
The oil-bath version of the air filter was also available as a 230sl option when delivered to certain countries. Don't know if this option was also available for the 250sl or 280sl.

On another note, the brake booster in that picture is incorrect for the car.

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Fernando

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Re: Air filter doubt
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2007, 21:06:18 »
quote:
Originally posted by ja17

Hello Fernando,

The first diagram is a correct filter assembly.

The second diagram looks like it could be a permanent "oil bath" filtering unit. Was this a possible option on sedans? or W113 cars?  Most early Mercedes diesel engines used the "oil bah" style.



Joe Alexander
Blacklick, Ohio



Joe , the strange is that EPC do not accept first diagram as correct
when i use chassis 113043.
But i was 90% convinced that EPC was wrong. Thanks.

Do you know you can get free EPC in the US now? Paying US12.00 you can have worldwide models for one year.

Link: http://epc.startekinfo.com/epc/

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Re: Air filter doubt
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2007, 21:08:10 »
Thanks Wagas...too small..I saw , i thought it was that way because it is mechanic.

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Re: Air filter doubt
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2007, 05:40:16 »
My '68 280SL which was built for Kenya came with the oil bath air filter.
Looks exactly like your second air filter picture.

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Re: Air filter doubt
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2007, 05:53:54 »
The air filter in my early 250sl has the oil bath unit as shown in Picture #2

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Re: Air filter doubt
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2007, 10:33:16 »
quote:
Originally posted by Fernando

Thanks Wagas...too small..I saw , i thought it was that way because it is mechanic.



Not sure what you mean by 'mechanic' but from your picture, the booster is clearly vacuum-assisted.  (Or perhaps you mean it was the mechanic who worked on the car that done it!  :D )    I wonder what car this booster came from....

So, are you buying it?  We want more pictures if you do!

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Re: Air filter doubt
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2007, 16:44:21 »
Fernando - possibly the fact that you live in Brazil could mean the car was originally delivered there, or close-by, and that could well mean that it was delivered with the oil-bath filter which, as I understand it, was delivered to countries which at the time did not have the best of roads (lots of dust, sand etc) so the filter had to be more thorough.

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Re: Air filter doubt
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2007, 12:52:56 »
Fernando,
Picture #1 shows the air filter assembly for the coupe/cabriolet.  Identified by the long flat snorkel that goes to the upright grille opening.
You have the oil bath type as Cees pointed out.  For dusty conditions.  SImply rinse the filter element in a kerosene type solution to clean out the thick dust and oil contaminants.  Replace the oil with a suitable oil again and then you are off again.
This setup was similiar to the diesel Mercedes models of the era.
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Re: Air filter doubt
« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2007, 05:01:09 »
I have the oil bath filter in my 1965 230SL.  It is an original Hong Kong car.

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