Author Topic: TIRES! VREDESTEIN!!!  (Read 33841 times)

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Re: TIRES! VREDESTEIN!!!
« Reply #25 on: May 21, 2010, 11:04:24 »
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You will be glad to know I opted to buy four new Vred Sprint Classics. Thanks for your advice! BTW, I used www.eiretyres.com which are part of a Europe wide outfit called www.delti.com, delivered within 5 days at 91EUR per tire, almost 20EUR cheaper than the next best quote I could get in Ireland

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Re: TIRES! VREDESTEIN!!!
« Reply #26 on: May 21, 2010, 12:31:10 »

All these cars look best as they were born, especially yours.

Hmm...as they were born??

MINE was born, according to my data card, with white wall tires.  And in countless renderings and drawings of the W113 I have from the personal collection of Paul Bracq, which includes many W113 variants never built as well as blueprints, etc. we should note that without exception, the W113 is presented with white wall tires.  Here is but a small sample...

So, we know that many here do not like white wall tires, and that's fine.  But a large number of US cars "were born" with them, and the stylist/designer Mr. Bracq always rendered this car with them.

Therefore I offer that this car was not meant to have blackwall tires exclusively, and indeed based upon renderings of the designer a strong case could be made for large whitewall tires...
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Re: TIRES! VREDESTEIN!!!
« Reply #27 on: May 21, 2010, 13:45:05 »
To satisfy you, Michael, Vredestein are going to offer white wall tryes.

They already make the 165x15 for Porsches.

14" ones will follow soon, the man at Essen said.

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Re: TIRES! VREDESTEIN!!!
« Reply #28 on: May 21, 2010, 17:13:19 »
...and I am happy that Mr. Vredestein will satisfy MY desire for whitewalls.  Wait, am I the only one? ;)
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Re: TIRES! VREDESTEIN!!!
« Reply #29 on: May 21, 2010, 18:34:09 »
The whitewall tire looks very weird.
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Re: TIRES! VREDESTEIN!!!
« Reply #30 on: May 21, 2010, 19:41:23 »
The whitewall tire looks very weird.

Maybe because of the size?  Is that the 165/15?  I hope that the 185/14 will look more normal.
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Re: TIRES! VREDESTEIN!!!
« Reply #31 on: May 21, 2010, 20:51:31 »
Every time I bought new tires for my 230sl I would come to pick up the car only to find that my new tires were mounted black side out, Even though I always would ask for white sides out, I would even hand write "White Sides Out" on the work order. Every time I had to make them remount the tires.   

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« Reply #32 on: May 21, 2010, 21:27:14 »
Maybe because of the size?  Is that the 165/15?  I hope that the 185/14 will look more normal.

I think the look would better be described as "crap" :o   I think they need to go to WW school!

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« Reply #33 on: May 21, 2010, 21:39:34 »
I think its due to a close shot from a wide angle lens.

not a fan of wws

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Re: TIRES! VREDESTEIN!!!
« Reply #34 on: May 21, 2010, 21:40:17 »
Maybe because of the size?  Is that the 165/15?  I hope that the 185/14 will look more normal.

No, because the whitewall is on the outer perimeter of the tire rather than the inner.
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Re: TIRES! VREDESTEIN!!!
« Reply #35 on: May 21, 2010, 21:45:18 »
ya, now see what you mean.

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Re: TIRES! VREDESTEIN!!!
« Reply #36 on: May 21, 2010, 21:51:21 »
Naj, will they be keeping the rub strip when they add the ww?

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Re: TIRES! VREDESTEIN!!!
« Reply #37 on: May 22, 2010, 10:03:54 »
Sorry, didn't ask that question  ???

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Re: TIRES! VREDESTEIN!!!
« Reply #38 on: July 01, 2010, 19:14:02 »
But can you still buy them?

Yes, in the UK, although i notice that they have gone up to £199 each. I will bring a fresh set over on my car when I ship it over and keep the older ones ( two years ) in the trunk.

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« Reply #39 on: July 04, 2010, 07:31:51 »
Hello Paulr,
I think you have been quoted the wrong price for the Vredestien Sprint Classics (including outside ridge) at £199.
These tyres are available through www.mytyres.co.uk for £70 including delivery and vat.
The tyres are sent from Germany to a UK address and the delivery was first class.
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Re: TIRES! VREDESTEIN!!!
« Reply #40 on: July 04, 2010, 12:10:53 »
it is the Michelin mxv-p 185 x14. I have these and they have the rub strip. They look and drive beautifully.

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« Reply #41 on: August 02, 2010, 23:16:26 »
I put a set of the Sprint Classics on last month and then went on a 1500 mile road trip.  They worked great.  I also think they look great.  They don't have the whitewall like the original tires but  they still look and drive great.

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« Reply #42 on: August 02, 2010, 23:37:41 »
I still have 4 new and unmounted Michelin MVX-P  185-14 tires for sale.  Cost $324 each.  any reasonable offer considered.
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Re: TIRES! VREDESTEIN!!!
« Reply #43 on: August 03, 2010, 03:08:46 »
Is there a way to get these 185s with the wide ww??

I recently replaced my Pirelli's with the Phoenix 185HR14 reproductions (white walls) and they've been great.  The only minor complaint is the rub strip is smaller than on the original (I can tell from my spare). They drive really well.  I probably would have gone with the Vred's if I were in the market for black walls.

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« Reply #44 on: August 04, 2010, 11:13:21 »
But can you still buy them?

yes. After some dithering about sizes, I have replaced the Michelin MXV-P that were worn with the same. They drive beautifully, look just right and they just feel correct.

I wouldn't use anything else. They are £200 each but whats that on a car the would sell for £50000 ?...if I were to sell it.