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280SL Project - November 2011 Update
« on: November 13, 2011, 17:59:08 »
I've been making slow and unsteady progress on the 280SL.  In the 18 months since it came back from the body shop, I've managed to complete some of the more straightforward stuff:

- refurbished sedan rear end
- fuel, vapor and brake lines
- wiring harness, including new rear harness
- trunk lid and soft top hatch cover
- some engine compartment/firewall stuff
- heating/ventilation
- front and rear chrome
- interior leather re-done

But a lot happened last week so I thought I would post an update.  I took most of the week off from my day job, got some help from friends and got some of the harder stuff done:

- rocker panels and trim
- most of the carpet
- dash panels installed
- doors hung and new handles and locks installed.

We missed the goal of getting the windshield installed because Mercedes sent a clear rather than tinted.

Hoping to keep the momentum going over the winter!

Chuck Taylor
1963 230SL #00133
1970 280SL #13027 (restored and sold)
1966 230SL #15274 (sold)
1970 280SL #14076 (sold)
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Re: 280SL Project - November 2011 Update
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2011, 18:25:03 »
Nice work, Chuck.  Do it once, do it right.  You won't regret that approach.
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Re: 280SL Project - November 2011 Update
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2011, 18:40:40 »
Is that the new club firewall pad?
Enjoy some pictures at this link:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/8292359@N06/sets/72157603240571101/show/

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Re: 280SL Project - November 2011 Update
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2011, 01:43:01 »
I was wondering that as well but noticed the backing was different. Looks great!

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Re: 280SL Project - November 2011 Update
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2011, 02:11:45 »
Chuck, it's looking great, says he with great envy.  I wish I had the resources to carry out such a project.  Really looking forward to seeing it at the next PUB, or earlier if time permits. :) ;D
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Re: 280SL Project - November 2011 Update
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2011, 03:00:20 »
Thanks, folks.  The firewall pad is not the club reproduction, it's the real deal.
Chuck Taylor
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Re: 280SL Project - November 2011 Update
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2011, 04:09:55 »
Looks like you started your restoration with a solid example. Pays big dividends in the long run. Sure looks like a brand new firewall pad.
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Re: 280SL Project - November 2011 Update
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2011, 04:51:07 »
Thanks, folks.  The firewall pad is not the club reproduction, it's the real deal.
Hi Chuck,
are you implying that ours is NOT the real deal?  ;)
I bet you that yours is one of the pads that Tom LeClerc produced - you name the bet!
If I am correct then it has the same origins.  :)
What did you use on the inside firewall, hidden behind the new carpet?
We are gearing up to produce those pads also.
« Last Edit: November 14, 2011, 21:47:33 by 66andBlue »
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Re: 280SL Project - November 2011 Update
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2011, 15:33:34 »
Well, I don’t know all the details of where my firewall pad came from, but here is what I have been able to piece together.

When the production of the 113s ended in 1971, the supplier of the firewall pad material, Feuerwandfabrik GmbH in Bremen, followed standard Daimler Benz supply chain (although it was call “spare parts” in those days) policy, and shipped several rolls of the material back to the factory, and they were subsequently transferred to a warehouse near Stuttgart and later to the Classic Center in Fellbach.  However, one of the warehouse men, Herebert Klenk, decided that he could use the material for projects around his house, and (with his manager’s permission) took one of the rolls home with him.  Over the years, Herr Klenk used small amounts of the material on various projects like insulating pipes.

In the late 1980’s, Herr Klenk retired from DB and moved to Oberursel where he and die Frau had family.  One day he was building a small garden tool shed in the back yard, and decided to use the firewall material as an underlayment for the shingled roof.  When he was nailing it on, it so happened that his neighbor, Klaus Millenbach, was out in his back yard, talking to his Italian brother-in-law Marco Benzetti.    Marco owned a 1964 230SL, whose firewall pad was badly deteriorated.  He was frustrated that he could not find a suitable replacement.  Being an astute Pagoda guy, Marco could not believe his eyes, and immediately went over and inquired about buying some of the material from Herr Klenk.  After some negotiation, Marco went to a building supply store and bought a roll of roofing felt, which he traded plus cash, for the remaining firewall pad material.  Soon after, Marco returned to Milan and did a very nice job putting a backing on the pad, and installing it on his 230SL.  His brother worked in die cutting and did the cut-out process perfectly. 

Marco was active in the local Pagoda group and over the years made quite a bit of money selling pads to members of the group.  Several observers have noted that Italian 113s seem to have well-preserved firewall pads.  Marco always felt guilty about this for three reasons.  He knew that he had cheated Herr Klenk, he had made enormous profits from his Pagoda buddies, and he had not reported the income for taxation.  One day in 1996, he met an American tourist at a local concours and they talked about Marco’s nice firewall pad.  Marco realized that his was a chance to assuage his guilt, and took the American to his house and gave him the remaining material. 

The American, who remains anonymous, took the material, which was enough for three cars, back to the US in a cardboard shipping tube that customs thought was poster art, which saved him the trouble of explaining exactly what it was.  He used the material to make three pads.  One he used on his own car.  Two he sold to a well-known member of this group, who kept one for his restoration, and sold the third to me for a painfully large amount of money.

There is a persistent rumor, though, that Marco secretly kept enough material to do one more car.   Some believe that on his deathbed, he gave it to his parish priest to atone for his sins of greed, and that it remains in the basement of the rectory in Milan, but I have not been able to verify this.
Chuck Taylor
1963 230SL #00133
1970 280SL #13027 (restored and sold)
1966 230SL #15274 (sold)
1970 280SL #14076 (sold)
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Re: 280SL Project - November 2011 Update
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2011, 16:22:54 »
Crumbs.. you couldn't make that up ;)
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Re: 280SL Project - November 2011 Update
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2011, 20:43:12 »
Chuck. That is an awesome story. I want to play the Italian guy in the movie version :-)

But there has to be more of a twist.....

As his loving wife took care of him on his death bed, it turns out the cloudy origin of his firewall padding was not the only secret that he had carefully hidden from her for years. He had also kept a passionate love affair to his mistress, Mercedes Freidacher, from her. And he could not go to his grave with two such heavy pieces of guilt resting on his shoulders. First, cheating honest Hr. Klenk, NOT only out of his "roofing material". ...And second, lying to his wife about his secret double life with his extravagant mistress, with whom he often had intimate rendevous d'amours while he was on "business trips" to Oberursel, in the foot hills of the Alps. His lavish mistress had cost him so much money that he was forced to get a "loan" from the Milanese mafia. But, he devised a sordid plan to pay them back. While helping Herr Klenk remove the old roofing material from his shed, unbeknownst to the hard-working retired warehouse man, he discovered a parchment with a treasure map. It had been drawn by an Italian Sailor, Octavio Pagodliany, and showed a rich treasure that had been seized from a Spanish Galleon centuries ago. If he only could find the treasure, his financial obligations to the mafia could be met and he could continue his torrid affair with Mercedes.

However, sometimes fate does not treat those kindly, who go through life keeping secrets. And as he lay on his death bed (a sudden bout with pneumonia had laid his lofty plans to waste), he decided to make amends to his wife and he whispered to his priest, the secret location of the parchment. Months earlier, as he was installing the firewall padding in his Pagoda, he noticed that the material was made up of two layers. He had more material left over, so he carefully separated the two layers and hid the map in the role of remaining material..... Well, the priest, who was having his own troubles with the mafia due to a much larger bill than he had expected, for the restoration of his church, went to look for the remaining firewall material that had left the Feuerwandfabrik all those years before. ...But it was already gone! As it turns out, the wife had stumbled across the roll of roofing material on the attic and decided that it was no longer of any use to their household as their roof was made entirely of Roman tile. She gave it to the adult son of her sister who was married to a French man, just before they all immigrated to America. Her nephew, an architect from California, had come to visit them and was a collector of old Citroens and Peugeots and oddly, one 230SL Pagoda as well (His family on his mother's side was of German descent). He recognized the roofing paper she was about to throw away and brought it back to the new country to use in the restoration of his Pagoda. He even had enough material left over that he sold several more pads to some wealthy Americans at a large profit (One, even as far away as Church Falls, Virginia...) In fact, in some circles this man and his incredible find attained an almost mythical status, but no one ever heard what had become of the mysterious treasure map. Had the enterprising American nephew uncovered the treasure? Or perchance, he himself never stumbled across the parchment, hidden in the remaining material or it was in one of the pads that he sold to other collectors of Pagoda cars, maybe never to be discovered again?...

Oh, by the way.... The name of this American, born of French immigrants, was Tom LeClerc... Alas, poor Tom is no longer among us. However, he WAS able to achieve his lifelong dream and almost complete the restoration and with the help of a talented young vintage car enthusiast from Hollywood, CA, whom he also called Tom, they were both able to put the finishing touches on his beautiful 230SL before the brave man left this world behind. ..But!... Not before also leaving behind, as payment for his assistant's dedicated work to help him display his treasure at the now fabled Newport Beach Concours D'Ellegance at Strawberry Fields in Irvine, California, the remainder of the roll of firewall padding that had made this incredible journey over all these years and holds such a "treasured' secret.

....(Or does it, ....still?).....

The END....

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Re: 280SL Project - November 2011 Update
« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2011, 20:50:16 »
The plot thickens.... and where do the Australian with a strange predilection for cars with cat's names and the professor of German descent come into the story?

It can't be the end yet... I am awaiting with baited breath!

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Re: 280SL Project - November 2011 Update
« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2011, 21:08:18 »
This is really Hollywood style story-making at its best.
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Re: 280SL Project - November 2011 Update
« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2011, 14:58:15 »
Well..they managed to make a movie about the intermitent wiper so why not :)  (Flash of Genuis)

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Re: 280SL Project - November 2011 Update
« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2011, 23:51:46 »
"What do Tom Collit and John Travolta have in common?" Nice story teller and Travolta playing the Italian mob, priest.