Author Topic: Changing Spark Pugs  (Read 6694 times)

baileysd46

  • Guest
Changing Spark Pugs
« on: December 15, 2011, 21:49:56 »
Hi Everyone,

I was changing my spark plugs in my 1971 280sl today and one of the plugs was almost impossible to get out. Well, I finally got it our and I guest I may have not put in right the last time  and I saw what looks like some aluminum in the treads of the removed spark plug. What should I do?

Thanking you in advance for your help!

Scott

Richard Madison

  • Associate Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • USA, NY, New York
  • Posts: 1181
Re: Changing Spark Pugs
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2011, 01:13:21 »
Two suggestions:

Put the plug top into a length of rubber tubing. Hold the plug over the hole, then twist it in the first few threads by turning the rubber tubing. The tubing will not let the plug screw in unless the plug is properly seated in the hole...this helps prevent cross threading.

Also, to help the plugs easier to remove, put a small amount of anti-seize compound (the stuff that prevents thread lock) on the plug threads...various brands are around.

Richard M, NYC
« Last Edit: December 18, 2011, 10:58:41 by 280SL71 »
1969 280 SL, Tunis Beige, Euro Model (Italy).

Cees Klumper

  • Full Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • USA, CA, Fallbrook
  • Posts: 5719
    • http://SL113.org
Re: Changing Spark Pugs
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2011, 07:59:49 »
And in terms of your one possibly damaged spark plug hole I would suggest trying to see how the new spark plug goes in using Richard's method. If it does not feel right, probaly you need to look into the helicoil solution (plenty of ino on this site if you do a search). Good luck!
Cees Klumper
1969 Mercedes 280 SL automatic
1968 Ford Mustang 302 V8
1961 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Sprint Coupe 1600
1962 FIAT 1500S OSCA convertible
1972 Lancia Fulvia Coupe 1.3
1983 Porsche 944 2.5
1990 Ford Bronco II

baileysd46

  • Guest
Re: Changing Spark Pugs
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2011, 11:02:04 »
Hello,
Does anyone know where I can get information about using the Richard’s method with regard to changing a spark pug.
Thanks,
Scott

Naj ✝︎

  • Associate Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • United Kingdom, Surrey, New Malden
  • Posts: 3163
Re: Changing Spark Pugs
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2011, 12:55:19 »
Hi, Scott,

If the threads are not too badly damaged, you can use one of these tools to clean/repair the threads:

http://www.pvrdirect.co.uk/productinfo.aspx?catref=VS625

And how it works:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sL9jQcRZek&feature=related

Naj
« Last Edit: December 16, 2011, 13:16:12 by Naj »
68 280SL

Naj ✝︎

  • Associate Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • United Kingdom, Surrey, New Malden
  • Posts: 3163
Re: Changing Spark Pugs
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2011, 12:59:40 »
Hi, Scott,

Richard replied your other post:

Put the plug top into a length of rubber tubing. Hold the plug over the hole, then twist it in the first few threads by turning the rubber tubing. The tubing will not let the plug screw in unless the plug is properly seated in the hole...this helps prevent cross threading.

Also, to help the plugs easier to remove, put a small amount of the stuff that prevents thread lock on the plug threads...various brands are around.

Richard M, NYC

68 280SL

badali

  • Full Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • USA, Pa, Butler
  • Posts: 1067
  • 1966 230SL
Re: Changing Spark Pugs
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2011, 19:57:00 »
Do they sell the tool in the US or should I just order it directly from them in the UK?  I have one that was cross threaded in my 4.5 V8 many years ago.
Brad

1961 220 Sb
1966 230 SL (Sold)
2019 E 450 4 Matic
2022 GLC 300 4 Matic

dirtrack49

  • Guest
Re: Changing Spark Pugs
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2011, 02:24:44 »
Scott,

I just went through some problems with my plugs not coming out of my 66 230SL recently.

On number 4 and 6 I had to use a thread chaser to clean up the threads in order to install the new plugs.

You can buy a 14mm spark plug thread chaser at just about any auto parts store. I got mine at the local Autozone.

Depending on how much damage there is to the threads, you might be able to clean them up and avoid the neccesity of buying the expensive specialty tool or needing a helicoil.

One thing I found helpful was to guide the thread chaser in carefully using a long socket extension and doing it by hand. I would go a couple of threads or so, and back the thread chaser out a couple. Back and forth until it would go in with little to no resistance.

After you get your threads cleaned up, make sure you use a little anti-seize compound on the new plugs. Also like everyone else has mentioned, it is better to start your plugs back in by using a piece of rubber hose to hold onto the plug while you start them into the plug holes.

Hope that helps and good luck.


Theo

  • Guest
Re: Changing Spark Pugs
« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2011, 04:12:38 »
I too am changing my sparkplugs: Can anyone suggest a brand and/or type of the anti-seize compound to apply to the sparkplug threads. I have heard that copper-based is good (?).
Also what about just using WD40? --i.e. it helps loosen hard-to-get-off items.

Last question: for the piece of rubber hose, what is the preferred length, is it the shorter the better to have a more direct feel as the the threads are rotated, also the interior/exterior diameter of the hose (I have some hose handy but its too big, won't hold the plug)

Theo
1966 230SL Euro

thelews

  • Associate Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • USA, WI, Mequon
  • Posts: 1955
Re: Changing Spark Pugs
« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2011, 15:05:08 »
No, WD-40 is not an anti-seize lubricant of lasting value.

You want a molybdenum disulfide.  Paste lubricant, can/tub with a brush on the cap.  Pretty much available in any auto parts store, the picture below, from Amazon.com.

And, by the way, it sticks to everything and makes a mess, so use sparingly and carefully.
« Last Edit: December 26, 2011, 15:12:17 by thelews »
Enjoy some pictures at this link:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/8292359@N06/sets/72157603240571101/show/

John - Wisconsin
1967 Early 250 SL Red/Caviar, Manual #1543
1961 190 SL 23K miles
1964 Porsche 356
1970 Porsche 911E
1991 BMW 318is
1966 Jaguar XKE
1971 Alfa Romeo GTV 1750

J. Huber

  • Full Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • USA, CA, Cedar Ridge
  • Posts: 3061
Re: Changing Spark Pugs
« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2011, 16:14:14 »
If you don't think you'll use a whole container of the Moly paste for anything, NAPA and others usually have a small packet (like Ketchup) at the front check-out counter. Same brand as John's I think... One packet is more than enough...
James
63 230SL