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Benz Dr.

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Re: Boy, we have it easy!
« Reply #25 on: April 22, 2012, 03:42:59 »
Thanks Tom.

I'll explain a bit further. When you buy a car to restore, there's a certain amount you pay for the car before anything else happens. When you begin to restore your car, there will be all sorts of bills to pay for body work, engine, chrome plating, interior and a number of other items, big and small. Once your car is finished, your exspenses will be mostly basic maintanence so the bills will become much smaller. Everything you bought for your car is hopefully, a one time deal. If you have several cars this might be a constant and often repeated exercise.

 Since I buy parts almost every week, and I've been doing this for 35 years, I've noticed certain trends in pricing. In almost every case, when the part in question went '' classic '' the price increased considerably. Every time I order the same part the price is often higher if I can't get it through an OE supplier. King pins, brake parts, and stuff that has lots of applications, generally stays at a fairly low and constant price. Things that only MB has control of is a different story. Reproduction parts have helped out but sometimes the quality isn't there.
Avaliablity of parts through MB is a double edged sword. Yes, it's great to have them and they can often have stupid prices on some things, but it's also kept the aftermarket suppliers out of the mix because they are available. When something suddenly becomes NLA the repro parts won't be there for us. It often becomes a knee jerk reaction to a sudden parts supply problem. Anything that's still out there gets snapped up quickly for far more than what it should cost and then slowly repro parts become available.
Then there been times where some are left holding very exspensive NOS when suddenly a supply of ' lost parts ' are found by Carl Benz at a much lower price. It doesn't happen a lot but it does happen....

It comes down to the golden rule. '' He who has the gold, makes the rules.''

   
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Re: Boy, we have it easy!
« Reply #26 on: April 22, 2012, 04:26:58 »
A good example of pricing that has gone up on eBay and now matching our list of suppliers for price.  Ebay would not be my choice all being equal.

There were some OEM body panels for front left and right pagoda on eBay today sole for $1025 each. Pretty much the same price as some of our regular suppliers.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/251042631695?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_840wt_1158

As well there were some panels from the 600 including doors, a roof panel and a NOS crankshaft. All sold for $1025 each. Dont know how they compare with retail.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/251042626326?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_840wt_1167


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Re: Boy, we have it easy!
« Reply #27 on: April 22, 2012, 04:56:28 »
The crankshaft might have been a steal; Van Dijk told me man years ago that, at that time, a new crankshaft for a 300 SL from MB cost around $20,000! (by comparison, a new crankshaft for my Chevy can be had for a few hundred $, up to less than $ 3,000 for the most serious racing application).
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Re: Boy, we have it easy!
« Reply #28 on: April 22, 2012, 16:06:19 »
I'm thinking a crank shaft for a 600 would be the same as one for a 6.3 as they are both M100 engines. The crank in a 300SL is similar to that of a 300SE. Whether they're the same, I'm not sure, but I'd be looking into it if I needed one.
 
A friend of mine bought a new head for his 300SL Roadster for about 5K only a few years ago. This may sound like a lot but they were selling for much more than that ( 20 K ) until a new batch became available.

It's not the big stuff that I notice so much but rather the smaller common parts that I might order once or twice a year. I neeed a LT heater flap for a 113 recently. They were a lot less last year.
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1981  300SD
2013  GMC  Sierra
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1988 560SEC

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Re: Boy, we have it easy!
« Reply #29 on: April 25, 2012, 02:46:47 »
The best "Investment" I have made in the past few years was buying most of my parts for the restoration of my car when it started in 2007.  The 2 headlights I paid $1000 for are now $2500 and most of the sheetmetal has doubled in price as well. Still, Available and expensive is still better than NLA,

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Re: Boy, we have it easy!
« Reply #30 on: May 02, 2012, 22:49:30 »
Should I start stockpilling certain items?   

The recent discussions on the board about headlight lenses have me wondering what are the parts that I should start stockpiling for my car.  Being prepared for the unexpected - today I ordered two more euro lenses from my local parts hero (www.bmvautoparts.com/) just incase mine get a rock chip or break. 

what sort of parts I should be scouring the "net" for?  For example:  Watches - any Omega mechanical watch I find for less than $100 will go home with me.   Motorcycles - spare exhausts and side covers for my bikes do not stay on the table if the price is reasonable.   Oil filters for my CB750 motorcycles - I bought 20 of them last spring.

So far I have a stockpile of the following W113 parts:  oil filters, used injectors, crummy windshield wipers, spark plugs (incorrect and correct ones), and soon headlight glass   

Next on my list - fuel pump....

Anything else? 

I used to have an old Motorhome - in the box at the back I carried a spare alternator, distributor cap, wires, starter, waterpump and points - never needed any of them but they were there.
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Re: Boy, we have it easy!
« Reply #31 on: May 04, 2012, 04:27:22 »
Spare fuel may not be a bad idea - I understand it will be getting scarce ...  ;)
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