Author Topic: 280sl Overheating at idle  (Read 4402 times)

mrfatboy

  • Associate Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • USA, CA, Rancho Santa Fe
  • Posts: 1339
    • Mrfatboy
280sl Overheating at idle
« on: April 11, 2016, 22:39:45 »
Hello,

My '69 280sl just started to overheat at idle.  At normal driving the temperature is fine.  When it is overheating at idle I can rev the engine while in neutral and the temperature drops right back down.  All belts seem to be fine and the fan is spinning at idle and spins faster when I accelerate.  I'm assuming fan clutch is fine.

My first guess was a bad thermostat but that doesn't make sense if I can rev the engine and the temp drops back down.  If it was stuck closed I don't think I would be able to do that.

Any suggestions? 
1969 280sl (Aug 1968 build)
Signal Red
4 Speed

Benz Dr.

  • Associate Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • Canada, ON, Port Lambton
  • Posts: 7220
  • Benz Dr.
Re: 280sl Overheating at idle
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2016, 22:56:22 »
Could be a bad fan clutch. I use a bottle of water wetter mixed into the coolant which works better than you might expect.

 A lot of times the rad is starting to plug up and may need a re-core.

Did you change the coolant recently or do anything else around the cooling system? You may have trapped air in the system. We drill a small hole in the thermostat to let air bypass yet it seems to have no effect on temps or coolant flow.
1966 230SL 5 speed, LSD, header pipes, 300SE distributor, ported, polished and balanced, AKA  ''The Red Rocket ''
Dan Caron's SL Barn

1970  3.5 Coupe
1961  190SL
1985   300CD  Turbo Coupe
1981  300SD
2013  GMC  Sierra
1965  230SL
1967 250SL
1970 280SL
1988 560SEC

mrfatboy

  • Associate Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • USA, CA, Rancho Santa Fe
  • Posts: 1339
    • Mrfatboy
Re: 280sl Overheating at idle
« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2016, 23:19:26 »
I have done nothing to the coolant system.  The problem just started to happen.  How would you tell if it's bad fan clutch?  The fan seems to be operation normally when at idle as well as high rpms.

After doing some more reading it could be as simple as low coolant level which causes an air pocket in the system which causes over heating.  I will try draining and refilling the radiator.

Years ago when I changed out my FIP and refilled my radiator I got an air pocket then.  However, I can't remember how I cleared it.  What is the best way for clearing out air pockets in the coolant system?
1969 280sl (Aug 1968 build)
Signal Red
4 Speed

Benz Dr.

  • Associate Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • Canada, ON, Port Lambton
  • Posts: 7220
  • Benz Dr.
Re: 280sl Overheating at idle
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2016, 00:21:30 »
If you have the 100C temp switch on your thermostat cover you can undo it a bit and that might let any trapped air out. As a permanent fix, a small 1/8'' hole drilled through the thermostat works nicely.
1966 230SL 5 speed, LSD, header pipes, 300SE distributor, ported, polished and balanced, AKA  ''The Red Rocket ''
Dan Caron's SL Barn

1970  3.5 Coupe
1961  190SL
1985   300CD  Turbo Coupe
1981  300SD
2013  GMC  Sierra
1965  230SL
1967 250SL
1970 280SL
1988 560SEC

Tyler S

  • Associate Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • USA, CA, Encinitas
  • Posts: 1613
Re: 280sl Overheating at idle
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2016, 03:42:11 »
Running the engine with the heater valve open (set to heat on dash) will help burp the system.
You can check your fan clutch by getting the engine very hot then shutting it off. Try to freewheel the fan by hand. It should have a lot of resistance. If it spins very easily it is most likely bad. The fan should also be very loud when revving the engine when its very hot.
Thermostats dont usually fail in the way your problem presents so as Dan said a plugged radiator is very possible. If there is just enough of a blockage to impede coolant flow at idle.
« Last Edit: April 12, 2016, 03:52:20 by Tyler S. »
1968 (67) 250sl. 4 speed manual. DB180 Silver
1955 220 Cabriolet A. White Grey
2019 E450 Wagon. Majestic Blue
1936 Ford PU Flathead V8. Creme on tan interior.
1989 Volkswagen T3 Westfailia Campmobile. Dove Grey (blue)

mrfatboy

  • Associate Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • USA, CA, Rancho Santa Fe
  • Posts: 1339
    • Mrfatboy
Re: 280sl Overheating at idle
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2016, 22:09:42 »
Sometimes it's just the simplest of things.    The problem was just a leaking radiator cap.  Bought a new one and problem solved.    I should have used Occam's razor to begin with. ;D ;D ;)
1969 280sl (Aug 1968 build)
Signal Red
4 Speed

66andBlue

  • Full Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • USA, CA, Solana Beach
  • Posts: 4735
Re: 280sl Overheating at idle
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2016, 01:54:51 »
Well done, that should have left some money in the kitty for a good Margarita!  ;)
Alfred
1964 230SL manual 4-speed 568H signal red
1966 230SL automatic 334G light blue (sold)
1968 280SL automatic (now 904G midnight blue)