Author Topic: Injection Pump Repair  (Read 5748 times)

Bear

  • Full Member
  • Junior Level
  • USA, WA, Seattle
  • Posts: 4
Injection Pump Repair
« on: April 18, 2016, 04:32:34 »
Does anyone have a recommendation for a source capable of checking and or rebuilding an injection pump for an early 68 280 SL.  Mines been sitting since 1980.  I'm in Seattle so West Coast would be nice but a good port in the storm is appreciated.

enochbell

  • Guest
Re: Injection Pump Repair
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2016, 10:40:37 »
Gus Pfister at Pacific Fuel Injection in S. San Francisco is probably the most capable and expert service expert in the U.S.

Best,
g

Tomnistuff

  • Full Member
  • Gold
  • *****
  • Canada, Qc, Levis
  • Posts: 947
Re: Injection Pump Repair
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2016, 18:39:56 »
There is also Jerry Fairchild Industries, North of San Francisco, not far from Redding.
They did mine, but I haven't installed it yet, so no personal experience.

Tom Kizer
Apparently late 1966 230SL 4-spd manual (Italian Version)
Owned since 1987 and wrapping up a full rotisserie restoration/modernization.
Was: Papyrus White 717G with Turquoise MBtex 112 and Kinderseat
Is: Dark Blue 332G with Dark Blue Leather (5300, I think)

66andBlue

  • Full Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • USA, CA, Solana Beach
  • Posts: 4735
Re: Injection Pump Repair
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2016, 18:48:20 »
Welcome Bear!
Is the engine running? Don't start with having the IP repaired before you really know that it needs repair.
Most of the time they are still OK. If it is only sticking and needs cleaning then Fairchild is OK because he charges about 50% of what a full restroration costs with Gus.
Alfred
1964 230SL manual 4-speed 568H signal red
1966 230SL automatic 334G light blue (sold)
1968 280SL automatic (now 904G midnight blue)

Pinder

  • Full Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • USA, NJ, Edison
  • Posts: 1032
Re: Injection Pump Repair
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2016, 01:52:16 »
Pump may be good and just needs some cleaning to free up the pistons. 
1970 280 SL Light Ivory DB 670. 4 Speed manual shift no AC Limited Slip Diff.
1997 Corvette C5 Silver. automatic
2015 BMW 320i xdrive
2021 Mercedes GLS450 Silver

ctaylor738

  • Full Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • USA, VA, Falls Church
  • Posts: 1174
Re: Injection Pump Repair
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2016, 20:14:55 »
You can lay the pump on its side, remove the cover plate, fill the cavity with ATF, and let it soak for a couple of days.  Then turn the pump and see if the little pistons move.  Keep soaking and turning until all of them move.  Then turn the pump with a drill and see if you get ATF out of the nozzles. 

If this goes OK, use an (8 mm?) screw to move the rack back and forth.  Then disassemble the Won't Run Device aka Warm Running Device and make sure the air slide moves freely, and test the thermostat in hot water. 

If all this checks out, your pump is probably good to go.


Robert Fairchild checked and adjusted a pump for me, and also spent a lot of time with me on the phone helping me troubleshoot a car that had a hesitation at take-off.  Good guy.  Gus is one size fits all - send me the pump and I'll rebuild it.
Chuck Taylor
1963 230SL #00133
1970 280SL #13027 (restored and sold)
1966 230SL #15274 (sold)
1970 280SL #14076 (sold)
Falls Church VA

Bonnyboy

  • Full Member
  • Gold
  • *****
  • Canada, BC, North Vancouver
  • Posts: 912
  • 1969 280sl Euro 4sp LSD
Re: Injection Pump Repair
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2016, 20:28:58 »
I'll vouch for Fairchild - I called him up preparing to send him an injection pump because car sat for so long and instead he said to check a few items first.  They all checked out and my car started right up.  His argument for the free advice was that he's busy enough fixing nackered pumps so he didn't need to take time fixing good ones.   Very nice guy.

I have since collected 2 injection pumps so that when I need to send down mine, they can be used as cores to reduce the cost of a rebuild on mine if it ever comes to that.   In the meantime they make real cool decorations sitting next to a big Stromberg carb, couple old pendulum clocks, an industrial 2 cup Hotel type silver tea pot and a French horn.
Ian
69 280SL
65 F-100
73 CB750K
75 MGB
78 FLH
82 CB750SC
83 VF 1100C
94 FLHTCU
08 NPS50
12 Pro 4X

Mqueretin

  • Guest
Re: Injection Pump Repair
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2016, 14:50:54 »
Hi There,

For future references, in case someone needs an overhaul of his injection pump: I made a search when I had my two pistons for cyinder 1 and 4  blocked a few months ago for which I received great help from this forum. I contacted MB's classic center in Stuttgart and they reverted me to Bosch (www.koller.de). The contact details are below:

Koller + Schwemmer GmbH
Röthensteig 21
D-90408 Nürnberg
Germany

Tel: +49 911 36103-0
Fax: +49 911 36103-103

I was in contact with a very helpful person who can be reached at the following email: hermann.sattelberger@de.bosch.com. He can speak English.

hope this helps.

Cheers. Marc



rigger29

  • Guest
Re: Injection Pump Repair
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2016, 14:48:57 »
You could try this - Jeff at TMC Publications.  Funnily enough I've just been talking to him about engine rebuild manuals and he said he had the manual for the "6 plunger fuel injection pump" which is apparently what we have.  It gives all the instructions and setting for the Fuel injection.

You can get hold of him on 410-526-4495.  He's a nice, helpful and knowledgeable guy.

Cheers........Mark

Benz Dr.

  • Associate Member
  • Platinum
  • ******
  • Canada, ON, Port Lambton
  • Posts: 7220
  • Benz Dr.
Re: Injection Pump Repair
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2016, 15:16:24 »
You could try this - Jeff at TMC Publications.  Funnily enough I've just been talking to him about engine rebuild manuals and he said he had the manual for the "6 plunger fuel injection pump" which is apparently what we have.  It gives all the instructions and setting for the Fuel injection.

You can get hold of him on 410-526-4495.  He's a nice, helpful and knowledgeable guy.

Cheers........Mark

This is not something you can do at home. Instructions are great but you need special tools, the rebuild parts, and more than anything else, the skills to be able to do it. Then you need some way to calibrate your pump.  Get something, anything wrong, and you will be doing what you should have done in the first place; sending out for a rebuild.


You can do external adjustments like setting the idle mixture, mid and high range adjustments, freeing up stuck pistons, and changing the shims under the BA to adjust the whole range. Our pumps are VERY sensitive to even small adjustments..

None of these things are easy or simple to do, and if you've never done it before, it's hard enough at times even if you have.   
1966 230SL 5 speed, LSD, header pipes, 300SE distributor, ported, polished and balanced, AKA  ''The Red Rocket ''
Dan Caron's SL Barn

1970  3.5 Coupe
1961  190SL
1985   300CD  Turbo Coupe
1981  300SD
2013  GMC  Sierra
1965  230SL
1967 250SL
1970 280SL
1988 560SEC

Bear

  • Full Member
  • Junior Level
  • USA, WA, Seattle
  • Posts: 4
Re: Injection Pump Repair
« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2016, 05:21:55 »
Thanks for all the help I'll give it a try.
Just waiting for feedback on the block - apparently more issues with the sleeves and crank than I expected.
should know more by Monday.
Thanks again.