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terry shores

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WOW
« on: June 02, 2005, 17:51:39 »

hands_aus

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Re: WOW
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2005, 03:35:38 »
What is the pipe/hose on the rear left side suspension pic.

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Bob Smith (Brisbane,Australia)
RHD,1967 early 250 SL, auto
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Vince Canepa

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Re: WOW
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2005, 05:18:45 »
Suction line from tank to electric fuel pump, fabric covered as was the original.  Nice car, but lots of incorrect details considering the apparent quality of the restoration.

Vince Canepa
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peterm

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Re: WOW
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2005, 05:54:08 »
For what it would cost me to get my car in that condition I should sell mine and buy this and save a ton of cash and agita.  Even if it goes in the 50's!  (and I I don't think mine is in bad condition)

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Re: WOW
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2005, 07:11:40 »
That is truly a beautiful car.
I would swap my Bentley Turbo R for it.
If anyone has a car in similar condition & wants to trade even, let me know.

"Seven days without pizza makes one weak".

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Re: WOW
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2005, 07:31:26 »
Here is a picture of my trade.

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George Davis

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Re: WOW
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2005, 08:16:41 »
Bob,

I assume you're asking about the extra, small rubber hose in the photo.  That is part of the later type fuel vapor bypass system (anti-vapor-lock system).  The early system, used up to roughly model year 1970(?) has a hole in the injection pump outlet valve to allow fuel vapor to pass through and be pumped back to the tank.  The later system eliminated the hole in the outlet valve, and instead used a small bypass hose from the fuel pump to the fuel return line.  That's what the smaller hose is.  The later type small fuel pump has an extra fitting for this purpose, 'though not all cars fitted with the small pump used this vapor bypass system.

George Davis
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farmerford

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Re: WOW
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2005, 08:20:38 »
PETERM:

Look at the engine photos.  One of the left side shows what must be the MB"recirculation" fix.  It is a steel line running from the rear of the cylinder head down the left side of the engine, under the oil pan over to the right side, and then forward to just behind the AC compressor.  There are no hoses, but it probably connects into the hose system coming from the heater which carries water from the heater core to the inlet side of the water pump.  I imagine the advantage of the MB design over my homemade approach is that the coolant taken from the rear of the head still must pass through the thermostat to get back to the radiator.  Therefore, the thermostat controls all cooling water and the engine always operates at the correct temperature.  My rig sends the water directly from the rear of the cylinder head  (same port the MB system uses) into the top radiator hose through a homemade "T", thereby bypassing the thermostat.

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Re: WOW
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2005, 09:57:52 »
Chuck -- I'm going by memory here of the obscure M-B re-circ. kit for better head cooling that has been recently installed on my '71 280SL...but yes, I believe you may have spotted that M-B kit in those pulled-engine photos near the bottom of the long list of pictures on the Ebay site.

We're talking about the optional (long-lost?) M-B re-circ line kit for additional head cooling that was recommended by Gernold.  And on my '71 280SL we've recently gone beyond this factory kit.  As described in a recent posting, we went further by adding a large helper pump (along with a custom long/high-volume arrangement of pipe & hose) where the main coolant line comes out of the left, bottom of the radiator.  And everything (ie, the M-B head cooling re-circ. kit plus my new "helper" custom arrangement) does re-enter thru the thermostat, as you've mentioned.

Also, Gernold made a tiny modification to my throttle body, which as I understand improves timing at idle which in-turn also helps hold engine temperature while at idle.  As discussed earlier I will not rest until my old (new?) '71 280SL can & does hold engine temperature just like a new car will.  In my probable overly-simplistic view it's just a matter of applying the ideas of basic physics.

Tom in Boise
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terry shores

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Re: WOW
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2005, 22:27:37 »
I think this sl would be alot better looking with white wall tires.  Dark color paint job and black tires makes the car a little dull looking!!!

Douglas

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Re: WOW
« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2005, 01:01:39 »
I'm with Vince on this one. The car on ebay is pretty, but it falls short in a lot of the details. The engine bay, in particular, is clean, but not detailed to the degree it should be to claim "Pebble Beach" standards as it does in the description.

Douglas Kim
New York, NY
280 SL #016220

peterm

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Re: WOW
« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2005, 06:19:20 »
the current high bidder at 40K has purchased 280's in the past must be a dealer we know in disguise

Douglas

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Re: WOW
« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2005, 08:05:34 »
Not sure who it is, but he's named "Kent" and is partial to Mercedes, judging by his feedback.

Douglas Kim
New York, NY
280 SL #016220

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Re: WOW
« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2005, 16:21:49 »
I have a DB542 color combo but with the cognac interior and tan soft top. My opinions: Looks better without those bumperguards and with Euro lights (that is the way MB intended the car to look). Its a pretty color in the sun and shows every spec of dirt. Alloys look good on this and other dark colors. I agree with the Pebble Beach comment; this is pretty much how a very nice driver should look, although the engine will not stay this clean. Anyone who has seen a Pebble Beach or Amelia Isl car will know that this isn't in that class. I prefer the 4or5spd driven as a roadster with no need for AC. I would be concerned about overheating with this combo if sitting in traffic.

zanone

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« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2005, 11:16:46 »
I agree with you that a cognac or parchment interior in this DB542 color looks best. I'm looking for a Pagoda in this condition but want a 71 at this price level. I've been looking at the high end dealer cars but would rather buy from an individual in this group.

Ben

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Re: WOW
« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2005, 09:33:52 »
I ahve to say folks that despite some of the details being incorrect....none of which I spotted....this is still a super nice car !

I note it has the white wall tyres mounted to the inside, and owners preference obviously, and I agree it would look nicer the other way and with a nice contrasting coloured interior but I just couldn't criticise a car that has so obviously had lashings of money thrown at it, especially since my own car is in such need of repair !

The again, I poilshed my car yetsreday and went for a spin on the best day we've had so far this year. The car looked and felt great and so did I when I came back.......

......so I lit the BBQ and uncorked a few bottles of wine and sat there just looking at it !  8)

Regards,
Ben in Ireland.
'64 230SL 4sp.

norton

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Re: WOW
« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2005, 09:57:11 »
This is the same color as my 71 280SL and my 68 250SL, The 68 was built with a white/gray interior and that combo looks much better than the 71, that was built with a red interior, I had alloy's on the 71 and that looked alot better than the hub caps IMHO. As the 68 is a parts car, it's going to lose it's interior to 71 when I put it back together, and I already have a set of euro's and bumpers without overiders for it :D

Mike Halleck
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68 250SL (parts car)
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Re: WOW
« Reply #17 on: June 07, 2005, 15:43:17 »
quote:
Originally posted by Idle Swede

That is truly a beautiful car.
I would swap my Bentley Turbo R for it.
If anyone has a car in similar condition & wants to trade even, let me know.

"Seven days without pizza makes one weak".



Don't go THAT far...yours is beautiful.

Steve Griswold
1970 280SL signal red/bamboo leather, PS, 3.27 final drive gear ratio, AC, Becker Europa stereo,