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bpossel

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Body Workmanship
« on: June 15, 2005, 11:49:43 »
 :oops: I thought that my car had some minor body work on the drivers side rear inner wheel well, but as I saw this picture of another Pagoda (note: this is not my car), I noticed that it has the same "metal plate" installed.  Looks like it was bent to fit, then welded in place.  Seems somewhat out of place....  not a smooth fit...

Do you have this also?  Why did MB build the 113's this way?

Bob

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bpossel
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waltklatt

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Re: Body Workmanship
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2005, 12:58:15 »
Hello Bob,

No, this is the first I've seen of this metal plate.
I think this was an attempt to cover the rust holes behind.  Mercedes would not put a plate on top of the undercoating, especially in that area of constant water splashing from the tire.

Walter Klatt

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Re: Body Workmanship
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2005, 16:56:56 »
That plate is correct for the later cars with the big square plastic gas fumes container in the trunk!

bpossel

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Re: Body Workmanship
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2005, 18:03:52 »
Hi Walter,

I would agree with you and this is why I want to bring this topic up with this team of 113'rs.  Here is another example that I found.  This is not my car, but exactly what my looks like on the drivers side rear wheel well.

Does anyone else have this "bent metal plate" on the lower rear side of the wheel well (drivers side)?

Thanks,
Bob


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bpossel
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Bob G ✝︎

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Re: Body Workmanship
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2005, 18:10:28 »
The plate is in the left rear fender well and should be black not painted body color.
bob Geco

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Re: Body Workmanship
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2005, 18:38:15 »
Hi Bob,

That's even better news!  My car is light beige and my plate is black.  Very odd!  Here is a picture of my plate, taken when I was replacing the rotors and brakes.

Why did MB build these cars this way?

Bob

bpossel
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Re: Body Workmanship
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2005, 22:27:24 »
Ranchomerced indicated that later cars with the larger gas fumes container in the trunk have this plate; could it be that these were only cars destined for the US market, and MB chose to fit these extra emissions controls in the trunk only when the cars had gone through the production line, rather than treat these US cars differently. I.e. they had to open up that part of the body to do a kind of retrofit for the extra emissions controls.

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Re: Body Workmanship
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2005, 13:54:59 »
my guess is that the metal plate is intended to protect the fuel vapor lines that exit the trunk just above the plate...
Bob Happe
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Re: Body Workmanship
« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2005, 18:07:30 »
I don't have that plate.My car was built Jan. 1969 to US specs.

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Re: Body Workmanship
« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2005, 19:43:20 »
I went to visit my car today.  It has the plate.  Was built in July '70, and always registered as a '71.

I'm sure Mark Passarelli is right.

Tom in Boise
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Re: Body Workmanship
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2005, 00:38:12 »
quote:
Cees Klumper wrote

...later cars with the larger gas fumes container in the trunk have this plate; could it be that these were only cars destined for the US market

Engelen (ISBN 3-613-01367-3) states that this modification on the trunk bottom metal was made on US market cars after 1 Aug 1969, chassis No 11 948 onwards

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bpossel

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Re: Body Workmanship
« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2005, 12:14:33 »
fyi...

While scanning the parts book I ran across the answer to the metal plate that is located on the drivers side, rear wheel well on the later 113 models....

Look at the attached parts listing for fuel system...  item #63 shows a clear picture of the plate.  So... factory installed, as Cees and Ranchomerced pointed out....
Bob

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bpossel
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