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Re: Rust repair
« Reply #25 on: April 14, 2021, 15:56:06 »
Right! :)

I used to be an optimist, now I am better informed...

I have just come across this: https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=1184387778697922&set=gm.4198314260188101
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Re: Rust repair
« Reply #26 on: April 15, 2021, 17:45:37 »
Having seen the photos I think it would be a pointless exercise to try and repair such corrosion perforated panels and structural members. Best leave it to professionals who would certainly replace all replaceable steel and only try to weld together non available parts (if any).

If the point of the exercise is to be educated and have hands on experience in fixing bodywork I would choose a less valuable car to experiment with...... :)
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Re: Rust repair
« Reply #27 on: April 15, 2021, 20:26:17 »
Having seen the photos I think it would be a pointless exercise to try and repair such corrosion perforated panels and structural members. Best leave it to professionals who would certainly replace all replaceable steel and only try to weld together non available parts (if any).

If the point of the exercise is to be educated and have hands on experience in fixing bodywork I would choose a less valuable car to experiment with...... :)

Just as I stated in my earlier post. "This is where skill and experience come into play. Do you really want to experiment on a W113 to learn a new craft."
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Re: Rust repair
« Reply #28 on: April 16, 2021, 17:28:17 »
I am an amateur that has replaced a number of front clips, fenders, quarter panels and door skins in my earlier days. I would be afraid to attempt this car as it looks like the inner panels will need replacing as well and that requires a technical skill and knowledge that I do not possess.
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Re: Rust repair
« Reply #29 on: April 16, 2021, 20:37:40 »
Right! :)
I used to be an optimist, now I am better informed...

Definition of an optimist = someone who has not been given all the facts yet  ;D
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Re: Rust repair
« Reply #30 on: April 17, 2021, 05:20:28 »
"Murphy" was an optimist:  Thing about it.  Murphy's Law states, " If anything can go wrong, it will."  If Murphy had been a pessimist, he would have said, "If anything can't go right, it won't!"
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Re: Rust repair
« Reply #31 on: July 29, 2023, 13:49:26 »
I just bought a pagoda and new to the car game.  Have some rust in engine bay and behind back fender.  Any ideas on how to remove/ repair? Greatly appreciate any feedback. thanks



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Re: Rust repair
« Reply #32 on: July 29, 2023, 15:09:11 »
I'm not a rust repair person, so I can't comment on the first picture.  The second pic is of the exhaust manifold.  Cleaning this up for appearance has been discussed several times.  Use our nice Search feature and look for "exhaust maifold paint" or "exhaust manifold finish" or "exhaust manifold blasting" or other appropriate terms.  We've been on-line 20 years, so there's a lot of information that can be found in the forums.  Full members can additionally search the Tech Manual for what has been compiled there.
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Re: Rust repair
« Reply #33 on: July 29, 2023, 17:52:34 »
I am not an expert either and what I would do is to have my car inspected by a professional.

If all the rust is what you show, this would be pretty good.

The exhaust manifold, I would say, is nothing urgent. It looks fairly normal, it can be refreshed at some stage.

The rust in the back - again a professional would tell you if it is just surface rust or a small preludium to an exciting adventure.
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Re: Rust repair
« Reply #34 on: July 30, 2023, 20:52:56 »
All exhaust manifolds look like this unless someone has felt the need to apply some finish in order to improve it aesthetically.
In my 42 years working on these cars I've not yet seen a manifold that has come anywhere near rusting through. Broken or cracked? yes. Problems through rust alone? None.
Removing a manifold simply in order to make it look better or in the quest for whatever tiny performance improvement might be again by changing the thermal properties simply exposes one to the potential for snapped studs, rounded nuts and/or cracked flanges.
If ever there was a better example of "If it ain't broke, don't fix it", than the exhaust manifold I'm yet to see it.