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4sp Manual Box
« on: August 25, 2024, 05:54:23 »
Hello All,

I have worked out that I have a 4sp box from a 220 in my car, as the case is missing two of the 6 bolt holes for the top cover.

Whilst the current gearbox is functional, I’d like to put an original 113 box in my car.

Ideally if any of our Australian members have one it would be beneficial in terms of shipping, I’m not opposed to looking overseas for one as I have a great freight company here I deal with and I have contacts in the UK and US who you could ship it to for it then to be sent to me.

I realise this may be an exercise in futility, but I thought I’d at least ask the question.

Thanks Doug.
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Re: 4sp Manual Box
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2024, 17:47:43 »
These people are highly regarded. Usually their expertise is MB automatic transmissions, but, perhaps:

SUN VALLEY MERCEDES TRANSMISSIONS
11239 ilex Ave.
Pacoima, CA. 91331
Phone: (818) 782 2300
E-mail:  sunvalleymercedes@gmail.com

Perhaps they can be of some help or  direct you to someone who can.

Good luck!
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Re: 4sp Manual Box
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2024, 17:54:28 »
Hello.. i happen to have a 4spd transmission that i no longer will need give me a call 503 819 1088 portland oregon  Greg


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Re: 4sp Manual Box
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2024, 07:42:12 »
Hello All,

Still searching if anyone can help or point me in the right direction?

Thanks Doug.
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Re: 4sp Manual Box
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2024, 20:06:32 »
i have got a couple of manual w113 transmissions. Reach via dm. thanks.
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Re: 4sp Manual Box
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2024, 22:29:43 »
Hello All,

I have worked out that I have a 4sp box from a 220 in my car, as the case is missing two of the 6 bolt holes for the top cover.

Whilst the current gearbox is functional, I’d like to put an original 113 box in my car.

Ideally if any of our Australian members have one it would be beneficial in terms of shipping, I’m not opposed to looking overseas for one as I have a great freight company here I deal with and I have contacts in the UK and US who you could ship it to for it then to be sent to me.

I realise this may be an exercise in futility, but I thought I’d at least ask the question.

Thanks Doug.

Your trans looks like any other 230SL unit. I'm having a hard time seeing your concern.
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Re: 4sp Manual Box
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2024, 23:03:40 »
Your trans looks like any other 230SL unit. I'm having a hard time seeing your concern.

If you look the top plate middle bolt holes have no bolts in them because there is no corresponding thread holes in the housing.

Also the bell housing is different and doesn’t have the reinforcing that the 113 box has.

The only saving grace is the 1st gear ratio will be lower as going off the part numbers the box is out of a pre ‘62 220 of some sort.

It’s definitely not a 113 box.
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Re: 4sp Manual Box
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2024, 02:18:58 »
If you look the top plate middle bolt holes have no bolts in them because there is no corresponding thread holes in the housing.

Also the bell housing is different and doesn’t have the reinforcing that the 113 box has.

The only saving grace is the 1st gear ratio will be lower as going off the part numbers the box is out of a pre ‘62 220 of some sort.

It’s definitely not a 113 box.

OK, I see it now. It works but it's exactly correct.
1966 230SL 5 speed, LSD, header pipes, 300SE distributor, ported, polished and balanced, AKA  ''The Red Rocket ''
Dan Caron's SL Barn

1970  3.5 Coupe
1961  190SL
1985   300CD  Turbo Coupe
1981  300SD
2013  GMC  Sierra
1965  230SL
1967 250SL
1970 280SL
1988 560SEC