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mauro12

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Hood release cable
« on: April 07, 2024, 16:01:40 »
Hi guys , I was wondering what is the best way to prevent the hood release cable to break . I’m sure is proper lubrication but exactly where ? I’ve noticed that mine makes a strange noise near the release lever . The latch in the engine compartment is full of grease .
I’ve read that is a nightmare to open the hood when the cable is broken .
Thank you
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Re: Hood release cable
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2024, 17:42:46 »
I would order a new cable and replace it before it breaks.  If it breaks from the handle side, you can use vice grips to pull it but if it's  broken under the hood it is more complicated.   Search the forum, someone described how to do it not that long ago.
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Re: Hood release cable
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2024, 18:02:09 »
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Re: Hood release cable
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2024, 23:04:32 »
It’s not broken the cable but the release sound is not like it used to be before . To give you an example , when you pull the lever , the hood should pop up with a little bounce but mine does not do that. Probably the hood was misaligned slightly when I removed it 2 years ago to do some work. . To tight the cable you have to turn clockwise the screw near the latch right ? Ccw to loosen ?
I have greased the latch in the engine bay and I was wondering if you need to grease the cable near the lever inside the car. Thank you
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Re: Hood release cable
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2024, 23:39:20 »
To check the cable adjustment have someone pull the handle while you look at the catch to see if it pulls in far enough.  If you make any adjustments make sure it pulls in before you even close the hood.  If all is ok then maybe you did miss align the hood a little.  Also check the spring in the catch to see if it is working.
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Re: Hood release cable
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2024, 13:10:13 »
I'm curious now, prompted by this discussion. When hood release cables have broken in the past, does anyone know why they broke? AFAIK these are solid steel, 'piano wires' that are very robust.
Some lubrication I suppose couldn't hurt, although I understand many types of lubrication dry up, attract dust and dirt and so on, and so in the long run can do more damage than good.
A thorough inspection of the existing wire, by taking it apart, could be a good idea. Clean it (steel wool / metal polish?) and before putting it back into the outer cable, some lubrication could be applied, like graphite powder or whichever would be suitable. But maybe just ensuring it's clean without any traces of corrosion should be fine.
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Re: Hood release cable
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2024, 14:29:01 »
It’s a good idea to lubricate near the handle inside the car ? I guess the same thing is for the soft top compartment.
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Re: Hood release cable
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2024, 15:54:52 »
I believe someone here had a problem with the cable detaching from the release handle in the car.  Get up close and make sure the connection is aligned properly, nothing is catching or loose.
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Re: Hood release cable
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2024, 23:38:04 »
Hi Pagoda friends,

I'm probably the strange duck on this forum. However, I had a friend years ago have the hood latch cable break on his Pagoda. I just remember it being a real nightmare for him to get the hood open. I don't recall how he finally did.

My wife and I are planning a 7000 mile cross country road trip in our 1966 230SL this summer. Last winter while working on the car I told her I was concerned that if it happened somewhere thousands of miles from home, we would have a real problem. So, last winter while the car was on the lift, I made a secondary release cable.

I basically used a bicycle brake cable and hooked it to the original hood latch and ran it down behind and under the brake booster and the handle is in behind the left front lower A frame. Just reach your arm under to feel for it and pull. It was easy and works like a charm, and who would ever know it's' there?

Ok, go ahead, I have thick skin. I'm ready for it. Not original etc. But, Ahhhhh that peace of mind is priceless. My wife thought it was a great idea. What else really matters?

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Re: Hood release cable
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2024, 14:21:49 »
Similar to this.
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Re: Hood release cable
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2024, 21:30:40 »
Yeah Maz,
Yep, very similar. I removed the hood latch and attached a secondary cable directly to the latch mechanism. I mainly did this because we're taking an extensive road trip this summer in our SL, and remember all too well, my friend having his break.

If I remember correctly, the cable broke where it attaches to the latch mechanism. A real nightmare for him.

I realize this is a bit extreme, but lets face it, these cars are past 50 years old and metal does fatigue over time. I had the hood latch brake on my Ford Ranger in my driveway. That was a real pain, however the latch is in the front on a Ranger. I can't even imagine trying to get the hood open on one of these SLs, let alone a thousand miles from home. Like I said, peace of mind, that's all.

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Re: Hood release cable
« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2024, 17:37:08 »
Week end work..... I have fitted a emergency hood release cable as others but with an easy handle : golf ball that i can catch easily and in the way of the cable a piece of hard plastic hose to facilitate the turn 90° of the cable .
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Re: Hood release cable
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2024, 03:43:36 »
A poor boy back up hood release ! An excellent idea.  Next up on the Pagoda job list.  Thanks to all for the inspiration.

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Re: Hood release cable
« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2024, 20:43:43 »
This seems like a really good idea but I need a little help.

 What I decided to do was to use a thin braided wire, slide it inside a on-hand long spring (so it slides easily)m covered it with shrink tubing to look like the other in place cable and the new cable can be connected along the track of the existing wire brackets to look similar
 
BUT NOW

I cant see how to connect the wire at the hood release pin under the hood.  I could easily loosen the four screws holding the mechanism but afraid of screwing up the existing, working well adjusted hood release cable  I looked at the mazmonza jpg but mine loos different (pix attached

What am I missing, Help?

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Re: Hood release cable
« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2024, 10:11:48 »
Hi John, I don't know if this helps, I used a scooter brake inner cable, you could use the outer as well but it's not very pliable and a heater fan knob. Pics show connection.

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Re: Hood release cable
« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2024, 13:52:42 »
Thank you Maurice.  That last picture gave me some confidence to "loosen" the latch mechanism.  I was very leery of doing so thinking that in trying to make something "better," I would screw up what was working  Thanks for taking the time to help

greetings from the other side of the pond

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