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Looking for a retoration shop 200 miles from DMV
« on: March 05, 2024, 01:17:06 »
Hello all...

I have been procrastinating this project for 20 + years and finally its dawning on me I cant do it myself...  I took a 71 280sl appart over 20 years ago and have been stuck once I got the body work done.   I am looking for someone to help in three phases and it does not need to be the same shop...   

Phase 1 is rebuilding the motor... It was running fine ...  and assembling the engine and transmission to get it to be mechanically operational.   Would prefer one shop to do all this...

Phase 2 would be to paint the vehicle and get it done...

Phase 3 is finishing the car...   I have most of all the parts but I believe I would need to replace a good amount... Wood stuff and all...   

Can someone please give me ideas and possibly shop suggestions for this??

Thanks in advance

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Re: Looking for a retoration shop 200 miles from DMV
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2024, 03:54:32 »
See if Will Samples at S&S Imports on Wendy Dr is still in business.  He's a long-time contributor to this forum and could help or provide a reference.

Some members have mentioned this place:  https://arthurs-mercedes-service.business.site/

Also with some mentions is this place:  Auto Haus Schweikart in Dallas

A way's away in Houston is:  Beverly Hills Motors

A lot of these places seem to be small, but used by members of this Forum.  There are probably others worth mentioning that I couldn't find in my Search results.

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Re: Looking for a retoration shop 200 miles from DMV
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2024, 19:34:30 »
Ken Aucone in Wall Twp., NJ 609-304-3565 could do all or part of this. He's worked on my cars with excellent results.
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Re: Looking for a retoration shop 200 miles from DMV
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2024, 23:07:34 »
Thanks for the heads..

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Re: Looking for a retoration shop 200 miles from DMV
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2024, 23:08:13 »
THANK YOU....  I will contact all of them

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Re: Looking for a retoration shop 200 miles from DMV
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2024, 04:43:11 »
Sorry!  You said DMV and my stupod brain saw DFW.  Sorry for all the Texas referrals.   :(
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Re: Looking for a retoration shop 200 miles from DMV
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2024, 00:52:34 »
Hahahaha.... No worries...  I may actually have to look farther.... But hopefully not DFW.....

Have a great day/evening/week.

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Re: Looking for a retoration shop 200 miles from DMV
« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2024, 22:59:35 »
Just saw this post. I might suggest Metric Motors in California to rebuild the engine. Not sure if they do transmissions or not but there's another place in California that does trannys - Mike at Metric might know the shop.

You may have to expand beyond the DMV to find a recommendation although I'm sure there must be shops in the area. I sent my car to the Shenandoah valley for painting.

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Re: Looking for a retoration shop 200 miles from DMV
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2024, 02:31:30 »
White post Restorations, White Post, Va.  (South of Winchester) would be worth talking to, and they're close.
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Re: Looking for a retoration shop 200 miles from DMV
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2024, 18:46:06 »
White Post Restoration is a great lead....  Thank you... I will call and talk to them asap///

If there are any others as well please feel free to let me know...

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Re: Looking for a retoration shop 200 miles from DMV
« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2024, 00:20:06 »
Vintage Restorations just up the road from you on Rt 75 in Union Bridge, MD specializes in British cars but did a full bare metal restoration of a Pagoda just year or two ago.  They currently have a 70's 2.8 or 3.0 BMW CS Coupe and an early, flat floor Jaguar E-Type OTS down to bare metal.
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Re: Looking for a retoration shop 200 miles from DMV
« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2024, 16:47:36 »
Thanks for the heads up... Will contact them on Monday...

Called White Post and expecting a call back hopefully on Tuesday when they go back to work...

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Re: Looking for a retoration shop 200 miles from DMV
« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2024, 18:29:20 »
Hello all...

I have been procrastinating this project for 20 + years and finally its dawning on me I cant do it myself...

Phase 1 is rebuilding the motor
Phase 2 would be to paint the vehicle and get it done...
Phase 3 is finishing the car...   

I've never heard of the Washington DC metropolitan area referred to as DMV. But then again I've never lived there and for traffic reasons, I avoid it at all costs. I assume that DMV means DC, Maryland, Virginia, but I could be wrong.

You might consider re-arranging your phases, and you might consider expanding your horizons to beyond the DMV. Here's why...

THE engine rebuilder referred to by Leester, Metric Motors, https://mercedesengines.net will turn around your engine rebuild in a matter of weeks. What you don't want is your rebuilt engine sitting around for X number of months or years waiting to be re-installed while the warranty clock is ticking away. So, you time the rebuild for when the chassis will be able to accept it.

There are a few transmission shops around that I think can deal with the Pagoda transmissions. One of them is European Exchange, they used to advertise in The Star (MBCA publication) for years. Worth a call. https://europeanexchange.com Rich Varjan is the owner and I believe they've done a lot of these. The one in CA is Sun Valley http://www.mercedesdismantlers.com and Mike at Metric may be able to tell you others. Like the engine you want to time the rebuild so that you get it when the engine and chassis can accept it.

My guess is you'll want to have the FI pump rebuilt as well, and your injectors checked out. Pacific Fuel Injection in S. San Francisco, H&R in Bohemia NY, Jerry Fairchild in CA, Black Forest in Glendale, WI are all known to provide rebuild services. Some of these contacts are in our vendor list I believe. There was a recent post with YouTube videos by Black Forest.

There's a lot of your Phase II and Phase III that can be done without some of the mechanical parts in place. I think you just want to get the car as done as possible, and then get the engine and transmission in and running as quickly as possible after that.

Many items may have some long wait times. Instrumentation repair, chrome plating, etc. My own car had all the body work done and painted with the engine OUT, and we timed the engine rebuild as I noted. BTW my rebuilt engine has been going strong for over 20 years now.

One of our members here, AlexD, had a bad crash in the fall of 2022. He spent some time dealing with the inevitable insurance woes, ended up locating a bunch of needed parts and had much of the mechanical work done locally here in North Carolina, near his home. However when it came time to do the serious body work and restoration that went along with that, the locals were too busy to deal with it ("Call us next year"..."I can do it but not until 2025..") so he sent the car up to Motorwerks in Michigan (who had done a lot of work on my car). The car was started on quickly, and most of the body work done in a timely manner.

So if you don't have enough luck in the DMV area or expanded beyond that, Michigan is another place to go for an expert. There's very few people I would trust to work on my car, they are one of them.

When you are doing such a restoration, things don't always move fast, (my own took about 2 years) so as long as you can get to a place now and then you are probably OK. Also, today with the advent of easily accessible FaceTime, messaging, photos from your phone sent anywhere in the world in seconds, well, it's a bit different than when I embarked on this journey in 1999. You can keep tabs on progress at a mutually agreeable schedule.

You need to feel comfortable with the restoration house. If you have no chemistry or don't bond with the owner or manager, you'll be frustrated. Decide how much you want to be involved. Some shops want nothing to do with you, they want no input, no visits, just your check. Others will embrace you. Some shops are arrogant, some are friendly. Choose one that will give you the "warm and fuzzies" as they say.

Good luck!
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Re: Looking for a retoration shop 200 miles from DMV
« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2024, 23:45:03 »
I've never heard of the Washington DC metropolitan area referred to as DMV. But then again I've never lived there and for traffic reasons, I avoid it at all costs. I assume that DMV means DC, Maryland, Virginia, but I could be wrong.

Hi Michael, good assumption:  District, Maryland, Virginia.
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Re: Looking for a retoration shop 200 miles from DMV
« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2024, 21:55:50 »
THANK YOU Michael...  I will reread this post in an hour and send out questions to you...

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Re: Looking for a retoration shop 200 miles from DMV
« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2024, 23:46:53 »
Michael ...

Thank you for the thoughtful and detailed message...  Indeed this has been a long time coming and time in years is ok as I want to do it right.

The original metal work repair which needed to be done was completed by Andy Paza in Washington MD.  (AmpRestorations.net) but cant get a hold of them anymore.  Work was done over 20 years ago and he gave me back a solid car I believe.   Since I ran out of funds then I just left it in my garage and recently found it...  Haha... Children grown and life getting less stressful so I would love to have the restoration completed and get her back on the road....

There are lots of missing pieces so getting a shop which is experienced and indeed feels comfortable is what I am hoping.   But I also want to make sure they have a reputation which they are proud of as they complete my car so I do get back a very reliable vehicle.  I would love to work with the shop and help resource hard to get stuff but also understand they have hopefully better contacts.   What I do not want is a shop who is more interested like you said getting the check and not send or communicate updates...

Talking to Vintage Restoration today was nostalgic.   He mentioned not being able to start on it for a year which is fine...  But he also mentioned maybe retiring away from the business before my car would be done which I am not sure I know what it means...  I would love to find someone interested in doing and start on it soon as well as I am getting old too...

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Re: Looking for a retoration shop 200 miles from DMV
« Reply #16 on: May 15, 2024, 20:32:05 »
THANK YOU all who had suggestions... I was seriously stuck about what to do...  I spoke to Vintage and really enjoyed the conversation, and I also spoke to Billy at White Post Restorations.   I really liked their process and how things were mapped out.   I reviewed their agreement and pretty much signed up immediately..

They mayn't start on it for a year but having the certainty that we are moving forward is really very refreshing indeed. I am planning to collect all parts of the car and get it over to them first week in June and maybe Christmas of one of these years I will have a completed car as a present.

THANK YOU Michael..  I did try and email and call Motorwerks and with your recommendation I would have seriously considered them   But three days of no call back or email back seemed to me they were not very interested 

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Re: Looking for a retoration shop 200 miles from DMV
« Reply #17 on: October 29, 2024, 18:37:53 »
FYI I just found out from the owner at Arthur's Mercedes in Dallas that they are closing as of December 2024

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