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cold start valve
« on: March 08, 2006, 21:04:52 »
Hello, does anyone know what the numbers on the tag that is on the cold start valve mean. I have two units(on the bench not on the car) & one says 2/3 & the other one says 2/4?

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Re: cold start valve
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2006, 04:56:40 »
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Originally posted by gatorjaws

Hello, does anyone know what the numbers on the tag that is on the cold start valve mean. I have two units(on the bench not on the car) & one says 2/3 & the other one says 2/4?


The only thing I can think of is that there are different model CSVs.

The one on a friends 280sl is different to the one on my 250sl.

This came to light when he was having trouble with his leaking 280sl CSV. The interior used a ball valve while the earlier unit uses the typical system shown in the pic attached. Sorry about the pic quality but it had to be reduced and it lost definition.

A new CSV was quoted at AUD$800.00. He bought a used but good unit for AUD $100.00 plus freight.

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Re: cold start valve
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2006, 12:13:14 »
Thanks for your time! I can't find anything either & I even called M.B.U.S.A. & they had no idea either.

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Re: cold start valve
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2006, 16:44:08 »
The BOSCH parts list for the 230 SL lists "Starting Valve 0 437 900 004 EP/EV 2/3". Don't have the lists for 250 SL and 280 SL.

Klaus
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Re: cold start valve
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2006, 09:52:33 »
Hello GatorJaw the coldstart valve I took off of my parts car...
 ( a late 250SL ) is stamped Bosch EP/EV 2/4
Also I found a brand new one along with many other NOS parts in the trunk. Also stamped EP/EV 2/4 I was thinking of keeping both for spare but I think I might ebay one if you need one let me know.  They come up on ebay from time to time. A member of our local group Scott K. rebuilt his. Scott told me that the spring (about the size found in a ball point pen) that you see in the picture can get eaten up over time by the gasoline. His was so he just replaced the spring with one from the hardware store and his valve then worked. The spring pushes on a little ball check valve that makes a loud click when you fire your car up. Also sometimes the nozzle can get carbon on it and not fog fuel properly. Maybe someone knows but I think the Mercedes fuel injected sedans of the day have the same exact valve setup. A good boneyard pick part.
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Re: cold start valve
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2006, 09:59:11 »
For what its worth, mine is a 2/4. However, my records show this one replaced the original in 1984 -- (as an attempt to tackle an ongoing difficult cold start problem.) We paid $150.68. Should have bought two!!

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Re: cold start valve
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2006, 22:55:01 »
Thanks, but I have two. I bought one from Euro Parts for $30.00 (used), cleaned it up & it seems to running fine.My ldle kept creeping up & I thought that the CSV was leaking thru causing the problem.

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Re: cold start valve
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2006, 06:42:28 »
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Originally posted by isofast

Hello GatorJaw the coldstart valve I took off of my parts car...
 ( a late 250SL ) is stamped Bosch EP/EV 2/4
Also I found a brand new one along with many other NOS parts in the trunk. Also stamped EP/EV 2/4 I was thinking of keeping both for spare but I think I might ebay one if you need one let me know.  They come up on ebay from time to time. A member of our local group Scott K. rebuilt his. Scott told me that the spring (about the size found in a ball point pen) that you see in the picture can get eaten up over time by the gasoline. His was so he just replaced the spring with one from the hardware store and his valve then worked. The spring pushes on a little ball check valve that makes a loud click when you fire your car up. Also sometimes the nozzle can get carbon on it and not fog fuel properly. Maybe someone knows but I think the Mercedes fuel injected sedans of the day have the same exact valve setup. A good boneyard pick part.
Good luck
Best Regards
Ernie



Hey Ernie,
The Ball can also be out of shape or marked/grooved by the spring or the surface it mates to. Then if it rotates it will leak.

I have seen FI sedans in the wreckers with the same type CSV.

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Re: cold start valve
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2006, 10:15:59 »
Hey Gator. I meant I should have bought two -- mine was a new CSV from MB for 150. I think they are about 800 now, aren't they?

James
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Re: cold start valve
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2006, 23:14:28 »
About 1100 from M.B.

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Re: cold start valve
« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2006, 23:17:23 »
Hmmm, I better go examine mine before the price goes over $2,000!!! [:0]

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