Author Topic: Front Brake Upgrade  (Read 7064 times)

jeffc280sl

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Front Brake Upgrade
« on: March 23, 2005, 20:04:58 »
Need new rotors on the front of my car so I've decided to go ahead and install vented rotors and calipers from a V-8 280SE/SEL.  Having trouble finding a less expensive rebuilt caliper for the right side.  Left side can be purchased for $63.00.  Anyone no where I can find rebuilt calipers for a V-8 W108?

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Re: Front Brake Upgrade
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2005, 22:00:54 »
Hello Jeff,

I have dealt with these people in the past. They have thousands of rebuilt calipers in stock that looked  new and performed well.

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Joe Alexander
Blacklick, Ohio
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1969 Dark Olive 280SL
2002 ML55 AMG (tow vehicle)
2002 SLK32 AMG (350 hp)
1982 300TD Wagon turbo 4spd.
1963 404 Mercedes Unimog (Swedish Army)
1989 flu419 Mercedes Unimog (US Army)
1998 E430
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jeffc280sl

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Re: Front Brake Upgrade
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2005, 07:54:38 »
Thanks so much Joe!


Jeff C.
1970 280SL 4-speed

jeffc280sl

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Re: Front Brake Upgrade
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2005, 10:45:19 »
The telephone number does not work.  Any other ideas?

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Jeff C.
1970 280SL 4-speed

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Re: Front Brake Upgrade
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2005, 07:57:00 »
Rotors arrived yesterday.  Quite a bit wider than the 280SL rotor.  The venting is accomplished within the rotor itself versus drilling or slotting.  It looks more like a standard rotor of today.  Still looking for calipers if anyone can help.

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Jeff C.
1970 280SL 4-speed

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Re: Front Brake Upgrade
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2005, 21:29:44 »
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Originally posted by Lax882@aol.com

The telephone number does not work.  Any other ideas?

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Jeff C.
1970 280SL 4-speed

Searching two on-line phone book systems, I could not find them.

Searching the web, I found the same info as Joe.  I did also find an e-mail address.  Allow 24 hours for reply.

caliper@usa.net

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« Last Edit: March 25, 2005, 21:33:12 by rwmastel »
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jeffc280sl

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Re: Front Brake Upgrade
« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2005, 05:56:06 »
Thanks Rodd,

I did the same thing.  Sent them an email on the 24th.  No response as yet.  Any other suppliers of remanufactured calipers out there?

Jeff C.
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Re: Front Brake Upgrade
« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2005, 07:46:53 »

jeffc280sl

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Re: Front Brake Upgrade
« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2005, 09:00:51 »
thanks Norton,

For some reason they only had the left side available as a remanufactured caliper.

Jeff C.
1970 280SL 4-speed

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Re: Front Brake Upgrade
« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2005, 19:30:50 »
Hi Group,

Ended up buying the 280SEL V-8 front calipers from www.rockauto.com.  Discovered that there are at least two companies that specialize in remanufactured calipers for our cars.  The companies are Automotive Caliper Exchange and Cardone.  I was able to find the ones I needed at Rockauto.  BTW remanufactured 280SL calipers go for $33 plus $15 core charge each.  The 280SEL ones were a little more expensive and the core charge was higher.  I'll let everyone know what the look like when I get them.

Jeff C.
1970 280SL 4-speed

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Re: Front Brake Upgrade
« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2005, 21:26:52 »
Jeff,
Will our wheels (standard steel w/ caps or optional aluminum bundt cake) fit over these larger calipers?  Do you have upgraded wheels?

Rodd
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Re: Front Brake Upgrade
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2005, 09:08:23 »
Hi Rodd,

I've not put the new rotor on as yet.  Waiting on the caliper.  I'm told it is a straight bolt on job with no other changes.  I'll let the group know as I move forward if there are any problems.  The old rotor is 7/18 in diameter.  The new is 3/4 in and it's vented.  Should make for cooler better braking for about $100 per side not including core charge and pads.

Jeff C.
1970 280SL 4-speed

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Re: Front Brake Upgrade
« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2005, 11:16:36 »
Reviving this topic as I'm having to face the caliper "rebuild or upgrade" question. I have Girling calipers, and I'm having a hell of a time finding a cheap rebuilding option (and companies are not accepting my Girlings as a core exchange for ATEs). Cheapest ATE set I've found are $500/pair. I'm now considering upgrading to vented rotors/calipers from a sedan, as Jeff has done, as it may offer the cheapest option (perhaps even improving breaking performance).

So my questions:
(1) Are sedan rotors/calipers truly bolt-on upgrades for our pagodas? (mine is 230sl)
(2) Does it allow our steel wheels to fit/run properly?
(3) Can our suspensions handle the extra forces?

Thanks in advance.

WAQAS in Austin, Texas
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Re: Front Brake Upgrade
« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2005, 11:26:49 »
The new rotors, pads and rebuilt ATE calipers are working great.  The only mod required on the 280SL was to slightly flatten the rain/dirt guard plate.  The new rotors were wider and needed the extra space.  I would imagine that the sedan plate would bolt right on.  I don't believe there are any additional forces in effect here.  If I recall the pads were the same size as provided in the factory setup.  Therefore brake surface area is the same.  The main benefit is cooler rotors which improve braking some and extend pad life.

Jeff C.
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Re: Front Brake Upgrade
« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2005, 19:01:21 »
Hello Waqas,
The front suspensions of the sedans and W113 is exactly the same except for the coil springs. So the suspesion will take the extra braking forces with no problem. Your original wheels will fit and work fine. The V8 wheels had a lot of additional cooling holes for air flow but not a real issue.  Any W108 sedan will have the same exact brake calipers and discs as the ATE equipped W113 cars. So this would be an upgrade for the early 230SL with the Girling calipers. The  V-8 W108 sedans, as discussed, would have the vented discs and wider calipers and can be installed on any W113.



Joe Alexander
Blacklick, Ohio
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Blacklick, Ohio
1969 Dark Olive 280SL
2002 ML55 AMG (tow vehicle)
2002 SLK32 AMG (350 hp)
1982 300TD Wagon turbo 4spd.
1963 404 Mercedes Unimog (Swedish Army)
1989 flu419 Mercedes Unimog (US Army)
1998 E430
1974 450SLC Rally
1965 220SE Finback