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bjudd

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high compression
« on: November 23, 2005, 23:02:39 »
Will Samples wrote in a technical article:

"Compression above 170 psi is probably due to carbon buildup in the cylinder."

Mine cylinders average around 200.   Would the car sitting undriven for 10 years be a factor in this buildup?  What will help?  Italian tune up?   The car is only recently safe to drive at freeway + speeds because of completing the front end work.   Thoughts?

bjudd
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hauser

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Re: high compression
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2005, 23:28:15 »
I believe that the compression on a freshly rebuilt engine is 160.  As for the carbon build up I'm not sure.

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Chad

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Re: high compression
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2005, 23:42:36 »
Really 200 ??

I don't know. Compressions were about 160 in the cylinders on this 230 when I purchased it, now it had been driven less than 1,000 miles in twenty years before I bought it, and it was certainly not a freshly rebuilt engine. I have no idea. It is interesting to hear what the experts have to say.




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Re: high compression
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2005, 20:06:02 »
Hello bjudd,
Yes compression this high is not normal. Getting the ignition timing correct without pre ignition detonation will be nearly impossible unless you are using fuels with octane ratings over 100.

The cause can be carbon if it is high in all the cylinders. Italian tune-ups will help. Try driving in a lower gear with rpms over 3,000 rpms for a time. It can also be an over-cut cylinder head.

It the compression is only high on the end cylinders and it decreases on the middle cylinders, the problem may be a warped head which has been over-cut flat again. This situation will be more difficult to fix.  



Joe Alexander
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norton

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Re: high compression
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2005, 20:41:25 »
Hi Brian  You might also try another gauge, I have seen gauges that read funny.

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Re: high compression
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2005, 12:41:21 »
I had my cylinder head off. Measured the cylinders for wear. Found .0015 inches of wear including some taper. Got a NEW head. Put it all together by the book. Measured compression: 185 - 190 PSI. I'm using regular gas from COSTCO. (and have since I got the car 2 years ago) the timing is set to 34º because I adjusted the flyweights. When I set it to 40º it pings. Idles at 625.
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